Se requires E to be utilized, so a horse can test Se-deficient when in reality he’s really E-deficient. It’s a relationship like many others - not enough copper in the diet and the horse can test low Fe, for example, as enough Fe uptake requires enough copper intake.
How are you monitoring your selenium levels in your horses?
AFAIK the only way is blood testing.
E-Se-Mag by Med vet has natural (d-tropho yadda yadda) vit E and selenium (plus Magnesium). I called Smart pak and they confirmed it. Its concentrated and it lasts forever. Can also get in Smart paks to guarantee freshness.
My horse has done well on it.
I went with the Vitamin E from Pure Bulk. My horses get selenium from their ration balancer and it is also in their loose Buckeye Harvest Salt which they get free choice. I didn’t want to risk too much selenium.
I use Equi Shine Super E http://www.equishine.com/horse-supplements/super-e-supplement.htm
My mare is an incredibly picky eater and a very easy keeper, but she’ll eat a 1oz serving (5,000 iu) of these tiny pellets even without grain.
Reviving this thread to see if those of you feeding the Vitamin E are still happy with the products mentioned here, or if you’ve found something else you prefer? I’m looking for a quality E supplement for a large number of horses and wanted to find out what worked and what didn’t for you guys!
I was feeding the obscenely expensive nano-e from KER. I’ve switched to less obscenely expensive Uckele’s liquid e.
Easy to feed, and I’m happy with it.
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I was feeding the obscenely expensive nano-e from KER. I’ve switched to less obscenely expensive Uckele’s liquid e.
Easy to feed, and I’m happy with it.
http://www.uckeleequine.com/buy/liquidept/[/QUOTE]
Very helpful! Thanks
My horse tested slightly deficient for vitamin e this summer (I did the bloodwork when he was very body sore).
My vet suggested adding some additional E and I found that Costco offered the least expensive alternative.
My horse gets soaked beet pulp so I add a capsule am and p.m. I simply added enough to his ration that he was getting 2000 IU/day.
He’s eating it just fine.
Costco E (which I used to use before the nano-e by KER) is synthetic E.
Natural vitamin E is recognized as “d-alpha-tocopherol,” and is made up of a single isomer. Synthetic vitamin E, termed “dl-alpha tocopherol,” contains a mixture of eight different isomers, four tocopherols and four tocotrienols. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=19954
From The Horse Jan 5, 2011:
In the second study investigators evaluated natural micellized vs. synthetic vitamin E use by comparing blood serum and CSF levels of alpha-tocopherol before and during 14 days of supplementation with 10,000 IU of natural vitamin E, 10,000 units of synthetic vitamin E, or 5,000 IU of natural vitamin E daily. The natural vitamin E came out on top, yielding higher levels of alpha-tocopherol in study horses’ blood and CSF even when given at half the synthetic dose. Indeed, the synthetic form did not even significantly raise alpha-tocopherol levels in CSF above baseline at the 14-day mark.
“Supplementation of a water-soluble natural micellized alpha-tocopherol should be used instead of synthetic vitamin E when treating horses with neurologic disorders,” Kane concluded. “Consider giving this to horses with neurologic disease at 5-10 IU/lb, to reach serum alpha-tocopherol levels greater than 6 µg/mL.”
Read the entire article here:
http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=17487
While I realize the article was discussing horses with neuro issues, I doubt the bioavailability problem with natural vs/ synthetic Vit E differs much between healthy and compromised. There are other older studies on healthy horses that describe much the same thing.
Costco also sells a brand of Natural Vitamin E. Or at least they carry it in my local store. I made the mistake of buying the store brand first.
So, I have a fussy eater. If I just drop the capsules in the feed, she spits it out and then stares suspiciously at the rest of her kibble - she’s thin, albeit gaining slowly, but she really needs her kibble. I would like to dissolve in hot water and dribble over top of the kibble … does heat destroy the value of the vitamin E, anyone know?
rodawn, what size do you put in her feed? I found my pony wont eat the 1000IU capsules, but will eat the 400IU size, so I have to spend slightly more $$ and put 5 400IU capsules in her feed baggies. I add in Smart Omega and her yummy ration balancer and she seems to eat it fine, but boy can she find those bigger ones.
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Reviving this thread to see if those of you feeding the Vitamin E are still happy with the products mentioned here, or if you’ve found something else you prefer? I’m looking for a quality E supplement for a large number of horses and wanted to find out what worked and what didn’t for you guys![/QUOTE]
I’m still using the EquiShine Super E, and have been for the last 6+ years. My mare was diagnosed as deficient by bloodwork at some point before I purchased her, and her levels have been normal for as long as she’s been eating it.
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rodawn, what size do you put in her feed? I found my pony wont eat the 1000IU capsules, but will eat the 400IU size, so I have to spend slightly more $$ and put 5 400IU capsules in her feed baggies. I add in Smart Omega and her yummy ration balancer and she seems to eat it fine, but boy can she find those bigger ones.[/QUOTE]
I was using the 400 IU. But she took up the first one, bit it and then went “eww, yuck, yuck, yuck, gag gag, aaack!” and then that was it for eating the kibble mash. So, I’m going to have to resort to melting the stuff and mixing in very, very well to dilute the flavor. 
Does anyone know of a good powdered natural E supplement? I am using the Nano-Ee, but its getting cold here and I have to keep it in the house so it doesn’t freeze.
This perhaps?
I just wanted to add, if you have Grocery Outlet in your area, it’s one of the cheapest places to get vitamins. I get A and E there for the horses.
And to back up PP, I found out almost the hard way about this with my pregnant mare. (I’ve told this story several times.)It’s really important to supplement them, especially over winter. My mare just had dry hair and my neurotic vet insisted I do a blood test. She was massively low in vitamin E and selenium. She still wasn’t happy and we tested again for A (almost unheard of) and she was even lower in that. I supplemented her, her hair normalized, and the baby is now almost four. The barn owner had a pregnant mare at the same time as my mare and thought the vet was overcautious–her mare aborted very late.
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I went with the Vitamin E from Pure Bulk. My horses get selenium from their ration balancer and it is also in their loose Buckeye Harvest Salt which they get free choice. I didn’t want to risk too much selenium.[/QUOTE]
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How has supplementing vitamin E dramatically increased selenium levels? How are you monitoring your selenium levels in your horses?[/QUOTE]
The vitamin E allows for better absorption of the selenium.
I do a blood test on all my horses regularly until I have some consistent levels…then I will check periodically.
Before I started supplementing with vitamin E capsules I was feeding 4 to 5mg of selenium and I was still testing low under 0.14 …now I am testing 0.20 and I am only feeding 2 mg with 3 to 4 capsules (400IU).
Dalemma
Dynamite Speciality Products sells OxE, a nutritional supplement of vitamin E, Omega-3 fatty acids from Chia seeds, Ester C, bioflavonoids, and Dynamite S.O.D.
A friend of mine who competes in endurance sent me an email that included this comment:
“I spent a ton of time trying to get a Vit E source that wasn’t chemical and in the end was stupid to waste time on it and not go straight to OxE.”
Sally
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