Sweet Catomine - Kentucky Derby 2005?

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>Originally posted by Bacchus:
Does it bother anyone else that they give a filly five pounds over the boys? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Shannon, you might have seen a misquote as it’s the opposite - Sweet Catomine will carry 5-lbs less than the field:

$750,000 Santa Anita Derby
(gr. I, Race 6, 2:42 p.m. PDT)
3-year-olds, 1 1/8 miles
PP. Horse, Jockey, ML Odds

  1. Giacomo, Mike Smith, 5-1
  2. Sweet Catomine, Corey Nakatani, 7-5
  3. Don’t Get Mad, Tyler Baze, 7-2
  4. a-Allright, Tammi Piermarini, 30-1
  5. Go Coyote Joe, Martin Pedroza, 30-1
  6. a-Customer, Rene Douglas, 30-1
  7. General John B., Jon Court, 20-1
  8. A.P. Arrow, Jose Valdivia Jr., 20-1
  9. Wannwinemall, Alex Solis, 15-1
  10. Buzzards Bay, Mark Guidry. 12-1
  11. Wilko, Frankie Dettori, 9-2
    (a) James McIngvale-owned entry

All carry 122 pounds, except Sweet Catomine, 117

From the Louisville Courier-Journal 1/17 "Sweet Catomine rolls in '05 debut "

“I don’t want to be cocky, but I know what I’ve been doing with her, and there’s more in the tank,” trainer Julio Canani said. “There’s a lot in the tank. She has really matured.”

“She’s just something else,” [Jock, David] Flores said. “…I just kind of let her cruise down the lane.”

Canani declined to talk about the Derby but said his filly likely will start next in the Grade I Las Virgenes Stakes for 3-year-old fillies at one mile on Feb.12.

Sweet Catomine accounted for $478,383 of the $502,194 bet to place, and $101,861 of $143,393 wagered to win.

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>"I spent 40 years in this game; I tried to get my kids to want to care about it after me. They don’t want to have anything to do with it anymore because of the charges made against me. I have to make some hard decisions whether I want to continue. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

… no please, don’t go, it just won’t be the same without you

The cat returns tomorrow - Sunday 1/16 - for the rescheduled G-3 Santa Ysabel - as the odds on favorite

I think I’m not alone in says she will destroy this field of five other fillies. As said best by a competitor:

“Sweet Catomine is probably unbeatable, but running second to her is not going to hurt,” said trainer Bob Baffert, who supplemented Pussycat Doll to the race for $2,000.

DFR 1/15/05 “Sweet Catomine in season bow”

“Horses should go forward, she’s growing, and she’s more mature,” [Trainer Julio] Canani said. And she is still awfully fast. She worked three furlongs Thursday in 35 seconds, and earned the bullet for a 59.80 workout on Jan. 1.

I have to admit as I have been reviewing again the Breeders’ Cup preview DVD that the filly Sweet Catomine is wicked impressive … I dare say more so then even her male counterparts.

A big, big girl who seems to know how to run the races - she isn’t like say last year’s Ruffian-esq Madcap Escape who loved speed from the word go - but rather she stalks then closes like the proverbial freight train.

Now comes this very bold article regarding what she could do:

Sweet Catomine is the early pick for the Derby
Pasadena Star News (CA) 11/30/04

IT’S tough enough to pick who’s going to run in the Kentucky Derby five months before the race, let alone predict who’s going to win the Run for the Roses.

But you can take this to the bank Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies winner Sweet Catomine will be a serious threat to become the first filly to win the Derby since Winning Colors in 1988 if trainer Julio Canani elects to try the daughter of Storm Cat against the boys.

This was the first year Canani has started a juvenile in the Breeders’ Cup. He’s won the Mile twice, but never before did he feel he had a colt or filly worthy of running in the World Thoroughbred Championships.

That says something about Sweet Catomine. So, too, does the filly’s monster 3 3/4-length victory over 11 rivals in the Juvenile Fillies last month at Lone Star Park. And consider this: The Juvenile winner, Wilko, ran the 1 1/16 miles in 1:42 two-fifths of a second slower than Sweet Catomine’s 1:41 3/5.

Sprinkle in the fact that Sweet Catomine had to overcome trouble in the crowded field, and it all adds up to the fact that Canani, jockey Corey Nakatani and owners Martin and Pam Wygod could have one tough decision to make come the first Saturday in May.

Of course, we all thought that about Halfbridled last year. She looked so impressive in winning the Juvenile Fillies at Oak Tree, was a big, strong filly like Sweet Catomine, and had a Hall of Fame trainer in Richard Mandella.

The key is whether Sweet Catomine continues to improve early next year and stays healthy. If she does, and it’s a big if considering how fragile these horses are, then Nakatani could be looking at his first victory in a Triple Crown race.

"I think she’s the best 2-year-old in the country by far colts or fillies,’ Nakatani said. "On Breeders’ Cup day, if she was eligible to run in the Juvenile, she’d have won 500,000 more dollars. She’s better than those colts.’

Why is everybody so high on this filly? Well, the Breeders’ Cup wasn’t the first time she’s out-run the boys. When she won the Oak Leaf Stakes at Santa Anita on Oct. 2, she ran the 1 1/16 miles in 1:42 4/5. The next day, the highly regarded Roman Ruler won the Norfolk Stakes for 2- year-old males in 1:44.

No, fast times don’t always equate into greatness. But in this instance, with Sweet Catomine’s size, royal bloodlines and penchant for winning by large margins, it only figures she’s going to be something special if she continues to improve and avoids that old injury bugaboo.

"We’ll see what happens at the beginning of this next year,’ Nakatani said. "Obviously, she’s going to move forward and go through the steppingstones, and if it happens that we go to the Derby with her … (well) Julio and Mr. Wygod will make the decision.

"We’ll have to weigh the options at that point. Most likely, if I think she’s good enough, we’ll go that way.’

A winner of three of four races lifetime she finished second in her 5 1/2-furlong career debut at Del Mar Sweet Catomine could give us all a thrill in 2005.

"She’s unbelievable,’ Nakatani said.

John Shireffs is a decent guy and a good horseman. Hopefully, Sweet Catomine will be able to continue her career without this sort of nonsense clouding the picture.

heard through the trainer grapevine she won’t be runnin for a bit. hope the van driver got a big tip for his “owning up.”

While poking around the TB Times Road to the Triple Crown website, I discovered that Sweet Cat’s granddam’s sire was Flying Paster. I was very partial to him.

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>Originally posted by JER:
And now I’m thinking that a conspiracy against this guy isn’t such a bad idea. The sport of horse racing would be better off without people like him. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The question is, why does he think he’s SOOOOOO important?

Pam, reading strictly between the lines and given my few interactions with Julio, my guess is that Wygod pretty much called the shots. He’s been at the head of the filly’s PR machine since the beginning and has said some things that’ve made me cringe.

So, it sounds pretty much like he made the decision to take the filly off the grounds. Did Julio know? I think that’s a question only he can answer.

Damn. All the way around.

I have been slow playing my partner into following horse racing as I hope to be an owner someday. I had her hooked. She is so unhappy about this story that I might have to start from the begining again! I am following this story with great interest. Please keep us posted.l

More of the same - “now or never, on the edge of history” - type stuff for the super filly

Baltimore Sun 4/7/05 “Sweet Catomine bids to join elite filly list”

excerpts:

Sweet Catomine captured last year’s Juvenile Fillies with an effort racing fans still talk about. Trapped on the rail turning for home, she lost momentum and looked beaten.

But then Corey Nakatani, her jockey, jerked her to the outside, from where she swooped down the stretch and won easily - by 3 3/4 lengths.

<span class=“ev_code_RED”>Sweet Catomine’s record of five graded-stakes victories, including three Grade I’s, towers over the records of her male challengers. Their combined record in graded stakes this year is 0-for-10. In all stakes this year, it’s 2-for-14.</span>

Still, the challengers turned out in force. If all 11 start, then it will be the largest Santa Anita Derby field since 13 ran in 1981.

“I don’t even know half these horses, to tell you the truth,” said Ron Ellis, trainer of Don’t Get Mad, the 7-2 second choice in the morning line. “One of the symptoms of Derby fever is that people get delusional.”

Ellis said he’s not afraid of Sweet Catomine. She could join Ciencia (1939), Silver Spoon (1959) and Winning Colors (1988) as the only fillies to win the Santa Anita Derby.

“I’m not as impressed with her 3-year-old races as I was with her 2-year-old races,” he said. “She’s going to have to kick it up a couple of notches to get involved with the colts.”

Cool filly - can’t wait to watch more!

Done deal, Sweet Catomine wins the Santa Anita Oaks, and now to take on the boys - including a very possible Lost In The Fog.

I’m amazed she paid as she did ($2.44) to win - you’d think it would’ve been closer to $2.10

LA Times 3/13 “A Big Day for 'Catomine”
Almost certainly the next race on her agenda would be the $750,000 Santa Anita Derby on April 9 against males. And if Sweet Catomine were to become the first female to win it since Winning Colors in 1988, the logical destination would be Churchill Downs, not for the Kentucky Oaks, but the Kentucky Derby, a race Winning Colors also won.

More the of the same:

The Blood-Horse 5/5/05 “Attorney Challenges Fermin Deposition”

Excerpt:

“Wygod and his attorney (Richard Kendall) are essentially trying to take over our case,” said attorney Stephen Bernard, who filed a Los Angeles County Superior Court lawsuit April 18 against defendants Wygod, trainer Julio Canani, the Los Angeles Turf Club and others. “It’s great (public relations) to take the pressure off (Wygod) and to put it on the (CHRB) investigation. Wygod’s trying to change the texture and get away from the real issue.”

[snip]

“Wygod has never had to answer any questions about his actions … we intend to ask him those questions.”

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”> Bottom line I think he a “master of the universe” type of businessman who assumed racing could be as easily controlled - when it wasn’t, he cried foul. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Glimmerglass you hit the nail. Tom Wolfe certainly coined it beautifully (and let’s not forget their “Social X-Ray wives”)… I suppose like a lot of other “masters” he’s yet to learn he can’t behave like a CEO in racing although we’ve seen some who learn humility (even Steinbrenner perhaps?) others will never consider themselves amateurs at anything. Too bad they can’t support the sport while they learn the ropes and politics and too bad they think they are above the rules and reproach. Wygod could have changed the whole spin easily by showing some humility (if he still recognizes the emotion), being upfront about the horse’s condition (before and after the race) and apologizing for his arrogance.

LA Times May 2, 2005

Wygod Lawyers Want to Talk to Board Exec
Sweet Catomine’s owner, who had faced charges, says there was a ‘conspiracy to get me.’
By Bill Christine
Times Staff Writer

May 2, 2005

Marty Wygod, the owner of Sweet Catomine, the filly whose brilliant career ended in controversy in the Santa Anita Derby, said Sunday that his attorneys have subpoenaed Ingrid Fermin, executive director of the California Horse Racing Board, to give a deposition regarding the case.

Although Wygod, speaking by phone from Rancho Santa Fe, did not say that he planned to sue the racing board, the deposition could be a preliminary to legal action. Charges against Wygod, including the illegal transporting of Sweet Catomine to an off-track clinic five days before the race, were dropped April 23 because of insufficient evidence.

One of Wygod’s attorneys said at a hearing that Fermin had been subpoenaed to testify, but she denied receiving notice and said she was attending a racing conference in Lexington, Ky.

Wygod, speaking on Sunday, repeated what his attorney said, that Fermin had been subpoenaed for the hearing.

[snip]

“There was a conspiracy to get me,” Wygod said, declining to name whom he thought might be involved. Fermin has said that the investigation of the Sweet Catomine affair was a “faulty procedure.”

[B]In response to suggestions that Sweet Catomine had been retired without cause, Wygod said that X-rays of the filly’s left rear leg showed a spot, something that wasn’t there, Wygod said, when she was X-rayed after her win in the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies last year.

Wygod said that 90% of horses might have continued running, but veterinarians in Sweet Catomine’s case recommended surgery. Wygod said that the downside to the surgery could be the filly’s getting osteoarthritis.[/B]

While I admit having mutual weight across the entire field - with no exceptions - seems more logical when testing her mettle, the net of it is that she will still get a break on her weight in the Kentucky Derby too.

Btw in case anyone was curious, Sweet Catomine is indeed named partially in reference to the famed Neil Diamond song, “Sweet Caroline”.

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>So, it sounds pretty much like he made the decision to take the filly off the grounds. Did Julio know? I think that’s a question only he can answer.
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If your Breeders Cup and Eclipse Award winner wasn’t in her stall that morning, there’d be an APB out on her pronto. Probably an Amber Alert too (she’s only 3!).

Of course Canani knew. But for some reason, he kept saying the filly was doing “super” all week.

What if Sweet Catomine won the race? Would we ever hear about any of this? Maybe we’d hear about how touch-and-go it was all week, we’d hear about the secret trip to the clinic. My point is, the same statutes (CHRB 1489 and 1597) would still have been violated by the transport hijinks.

I think it’s a sad day for racing when the betting/spectating public gets ripped off like this.

And now I’m thinking that a conspiracy against this guy isn’t such a bad idea. The sport of horse racing would be better off without people like him.