Taking the threadjack where it belongs - Haas brush thread

I got mine around the same time as you did. The only brush I bought whose bristles felt like they were synthetic was the Damen Wurzelkardatsche “rice root” brush. The horse hair brushes felt like horse hair to my fingers.

I did notice that the rice root bristles felt synthetic to my fingertips, they were just too smooth and slippery to feel like a root (I have uprooted many weeds in my paddocks, no rice roots but in general none of the roots I felt were particularly smooth.)

When I lived in Chile 60 years or so ago my parents took us to the pottery market in Chillan. Pottery was not the only specialty down there, people would also make small figurines/pattern pieces out of horse hair from horse’s tails and manes. These were quite stiff and did not collapse, so not all horse hair is soft and silky. This hair came from Chilean horses, criollos or crosses, and these horses tended to have rather bushy manes and tails instead of the thinner, silkier manes of Arabians and TBs. This was why I was not surprised by the stiffness of the Haas horsehair brushes as I had run into equally stiff horsehair used for stuff down in Chile (which as far as I know did not have a plastic industry back then.)

But I did not fall down and worship the Haas brushes because of what they are made of, I fell down and worshipped them because the two horses with the most sensitive skin at my rather large lesson stable have not threatened mayhem when we groom them with the “horsehair” Haas brushes, unlike regular brushes with synthetic bristles which they do not like at all and they make good and sure that we know that they do not like them (sidling away, dirty looks, little threat movements that are feet away from connecting, and a total refusal to relax while being groomed.)

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I’m not disappointed in any way, I am very excited to try them out. :slightly_smiling_face:And to have high quality brushes that are washable and variable in their types for different coat lengths, etc. I haven’t really spent money on brushes in 20 years so I am pretty ecstatic.

I was just pointing out that I noticed the synthetic bristles on the horse hair brushes too. I haven’t done the melt test, but if your eyes are good you can see the flattened cut tips like the other poster mentioned. But I am thrilled with my brushes and can’t wait to get my ones on back order. I am curious about the raised edge on the Cavaliere.

And my cat OWNS the Brenig Madoc. I don’t know if I have to eventually order one for the horse (I wanted to try it as a flick brush) or if the horse will just go without, but I have never seen my cat so happy being brushed as with the Brenig Madoc. She is worth a good brush. :upside_down_face:

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All I can say about this is that all of mine, purchased 2019-2020, are horsehair when they say they should be horsehair.

Where did you purchase them?

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Maybe I should order another for the kitties too. Lol

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Riding Warehouse. They are one of my favorite places to shop. :cowboy_hat_face:

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I tried brushing my kitty with some of the other Haas brushes and she liked them, but she LOVES the Brenig Madoc. She thinks it’s a big tongue I guess!

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Well I guess I know who’s getting a Christmas present! :laughing:

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Does anyone here have the Haas Koko mane brush? I saw online it says it’s made out of coconut fibre bristles like the Schimmel but was curious if it’s also pure coconut fibre like the Schimmel or mixed with any synthetic fibers?

Just curious as the synthetic/plastic bristle brushes have been shocking my horse quite a bit so was hoping the Koko doesn’t have synthetic bristle.

I don’t have this but am following your question. If it is coco fiber, I would think it would work well. I use the Schimmel to get sand footing and such out of tails. Mane brush would be intereting.

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I had my lesson today.

For the first time since I started working on my current lesson horse he allowed TWO people groom him in separate places at the same time with no reaction whatsoever, no dirty looks, no prancing in place, no sidling away from the brush. This means that we will be able to get him groomed quicker.

His winter coat is starting to get a shine to it too.

He even let me use the Haas New Generation curry comb without any comments. I kept the pressure light and when I sped up some he did not mind it at all.

My riding teacher’s curry comb hating gelding was peaceable when she used the Haas New Generation curry comb on him today, with nary a dirty look.

I told her about the current hypothesis here that most of the bristles on the Haas horsehair brushes are synthetic. She does not agree, based on the reaction of the super sensitive horses to these brushes and based on how the bristles feel to her fingertips, just like me.

I smoke. Occasionally a hair end gets burnt. It does NOT go on burning, it just burns for a split second, and it forms a little hard ball at the end of the hair, and it smells like burnt hair. My hair is not synthetic and I never use any chemicals on it except what is in shampoo.

Sometime after the Christmas rush I am thinking of e-mailing the Eqclusive people asking them about this.

Other than the Eqclusive people telling me that their brushes are really mostly synthetic, I do not see any reason to think that their horsehair brushes are made with mostly (or any) synthetic bristles. Maybe a picture of the bristle from a decent microscope would convince me, synthetic bristles would look different from horsehair bristles under the microscope. Of course an electron microscope would be even more conclusive, but how many people have access to one?

According to my riding teacher EVERY horse they have tried the Haas horsehair brushes on like them, including the horses that act like every other dandy brush used on them is an instrument of torture. It is SO NICE to have the horses actually enjoy being groomed after years and years of protest against other brushes.

I have a bunch of Haas brushes that I bought from RW last Christmas that are lovely. I just bought a Grundy’s Finest from Smartpak and the bristles look WAY different, they are kind of thick and wide at the end, if that makes sense? It says in the description it should be horsehair, but it doesn’t look like my other brushes at all. Really strange.

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I just bought a Grundy’s Finest from Smartpak and the bristles look WAY different, they are kind of thick and wide at the end, if that makes sense?

See, that’s what I noticed too. Except I don’t have any older ones to compare them with. All the Haas brushes I bought have been purchased within the past month or two.

Yes, I actually ordered a second one so I could keep one for the cat and one for the horse!

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I have a few of the ones you just got and I don’t think they’re synthetic at all, so I’d be interested to see how they compare. I’m going to PM you! I talked to Smartpak who said they didn’t know anything about Haas changing their brushes and said it should be horsehair. Who knows!

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I was thinking of ordering some of these… I have wanted to order some and kept putting it off. Now that they are being reported as now being synthetic…

Please report back about the comparisons.

Okay, so here are the close-ups of three of my Haas “horse hair” brushes. I’m not saying there is no horse hair in them, they definitely appear to have horse hair. I’m only pointing out that a lot of bristles look synthetic to ME. See how the ends are sort of flattened where they were cut? This is really obvious on the Diamond Gloss because the bristles are thicker, but you can also see it on the Amazone and Fellglanzburste as well.

Not saying they aren’t great brushes, I am super excited to try them! Beyond excited really, because I haven’t invested in decent brushes in literally years. (They are Christmas presents, so although I’ve been brushing the cat with them, they haven’t been on a horse yet. So forgive the loose cat hair.) I just wanted to find out what other folks thought. Maybe this is something new, or maybe I am mistaken. Who knows. But I did my best to get photos so you can see what I’m talking about.


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If Santa put this set under the tree I would be delighted!

Totally awesome

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My lesson horse, MJ, was MUDDY today everywhere his blanket did not cover him. I gave Debbie the “rice root” Damen Wurzelkardatsche brush, mud was coming off but it took effort and MJ started getting antsy from the brisk movement of the brush. I got my Schimmel out of my bag so Debbie could try it, and it seemed to get the mud off faster, with less effort and less need for brisk movements of the brush. He did not really enjoy either of these brushes today, or maybe he was pissed off because he did not get his special private flat of hay.

I had no problems using the Cavalier and Country brushes on his back after Debbie had used the Military (I think). She had to go off to get the vital signs of a probably colic case (the vet was called even though the horse passed gas and started pooping). MJ did not like me getting the mud off his face with the Kopfburste brush, but again he was irate from the lack of his special private flat of hay (this horse has access to hay 24/7/365).

She found it easier to clean his sole under his bar on his shoe (navicular, treated, goes mostly sound) with the Haas Joker hoofpick, in fact she started with a regular hoofpick and started complaining immediately, so I found the Joker hoofpick and she quickly cleaned his hooves.

I looked up horsehair on Wikipedia. Did you know that a major source of horse hair is Mongolia? They sell A LOT of horsehair, from the manes and tails of horses who deal with the Mongolian winters and do not die out in the cold, cold winds. I assume the the Mongolian horses who have to deal with truly bitter winters have horsehair of different thickness than we have here with our more hot-blooded horses and milder climates.

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I have the Koko mane brush, I looked at it tonight and it appears to be pure coconut fibers just like the Schimmel. Hope that helps!

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Excellent thank you!