Talk to me about Micklem bridles

Apologies for the snark, if that was you collegially discussing the merits of a piece of tack. From my perspective, that was a disproportionately aggressive response and felt like you were jumping down my throat.

I do appreciate your insights and you’ve actually prompted me on a couple different occasions to evaluate how I am fitting/using my tack.

I agree that there is likely better options out there, but we’re in a grey area as to the legality of a lot of these new tack designs and I opt to use the Micklem because it is specifically indicated as being legal.

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I agree with this, and I’ve been happy to see various other new designs come up (PS of Sweden, Tota Comfort System) although I’d really like to see them at a less ridiculous price point. I can’t be throwing around $300+ for an experiment.

My horse was maybe a tad better in the Micklem, just for the bit stability factor. But I have achieved the same result with a regular bridle and a heavier fulmer that stays quite still. I had trouble fitting the Micklem to his head - his mouth sits quite low and for the “flash” strap to be low enough to fit in front of the bit, I had to adjust the nose piece too low for my comfort. And in the end, it was just UGLY on his head. Horribly ugly. It accentuated all the wrong features. :lol:

If it came off as aggressive it was not meant to. I like bridles, and I like discussing them. The Micklem was really interesting to me because at the time it came out, I had a horse with an old poll injury from flipping in a gate and I hoped it would help.

Micklem has been out for a long time now as far as products go and there’s some others out there, maybe not imitations, but innovations to what the original design tried to address, which appears to be avoiding facial nerves and other sensitive areas of the muzzle and behind the ears. At the time Micklem came out I do think it was ahead of the game as it offered a different type of pressure on the horse, it had a padded poll, and it was a unique design (TBH I love the look of it).

Unfortunately if we’re putting a bit in the horse’s mouth, we need a way to keep it there - I really don’t see a conceivable way we could keep a bit in a horse’s mouth that didn’t apply pressure somewhere. Standard bridles have ‘anchor points’ where pressure is across/behind their ears, on their poll. If there is no noseband and it is a snaffle, this ‘anchor point’ distributes very little pressure, and there should be no pressure on any facial nerves on their cheeks. When you add a standard noseband , the pressure should be minimal as long as the noseband is not tight. Once you tighten the noseband any degree, it pulls the cavesson down, and causes pressure on the poll, the cheek, the chin, and the nose - all areas that have facial nerves that are quite sensitive to pressure. If you have a figure-8 or flash, this adds even more pressure than a standard noseband does. If you add a gag bit, well, you see where I am going. The tighter the noseband or the more leverage of the bit, the more poll-pressure you will apply.

The Micklem would address this pressure, but so would having a loose noseband. I guess that’s my point. In general (not saying you are guilty of this) a lot of people leap to trying the Micklem before trying loosening their noseband. So many riders don’t even realize the tension a tight noseband causes.

This is really a big can of worms but I think the bigger problem is that a lot of people don’t want loose nosebands because it exposes holes in their program, where the horse evades the bit, crosses their jaws, gapes with their mouths, etc. Tightening the noseband eliminates that unwanted behavior, but then you have to look for ways to help alleviate that tension which is where I think the Micklem started to come in.

The Micklem does offer bit stability, far more than a standard cavesson does. For that, I do like it and appreciate its function. I have, however, gotten similar results from employing a drop and a stable bit like a Baucher.

A lot of the horses I catch-ride go in Micklems and I can’t change their tack, because they’re not my horse[s] and it’s not my place. I will say many of them have white hairs on their nose, and rub their faces incessantly after their bridle removal. Their bridles have marks where the holes are always fastened and they’re tight, but that’s the only way to secure the bridle in my experience.

So the trade-off for stable bit comes at the price of pressure across the bridge of the nose. Some horses are okay with that - some are not.

The Stubben Freedom’s concept interests me, as it brings the pressure off the nose of the horse and off of the poll by anchoring at the cheeks. I want to know why no one has made an “o-ring” near the cheek bones, where the poll-strap could rotate and the cheek-straps move freely - this to me would seem much more comfortable. PS Of Sweden has a close/similar design that I also think produces similar results.

The other thing, just as someone who cleans Micklems constantly - for the money you really should be eligible for better quality leather. I don’t love the cardboard inserts in the noseband or the cheap lining, personally.

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Beowulf - thank you for your comprehensive messages. I have learned a great deal! I’m a total tack freak and obsessive when it comes to learning everything I can about all the equipment I use and that I might use. I’ve enjoyed learning from you!

My sensitive OTTB was terrible in the micklam. He lost all steering.

My sensitive TB used to fuss with his head non-stop in addition to trying to stop to rub his face on his leg every time we did a down transition. I switched him to Micklem (found it on sale cheap) and while it was not a “miracle” cure, the behavior went away within 5 or so rides. I have the whole bridle fitted fairly loose which may or may not be how it is meant to fit. I don’t really care as he goes well in it. :slight_smile:

I tried it on my much tougher arabian and he HATED it. It was like riding a small, angry run away train. Switched back to a flash and he was back to his manageable self. I agree with everyone who says it definitely depends on the horse.

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I’ve never used one personally but in my experience of seeing/knowing horses that go in them they either help some or not at all. Leaning towards helping not at all…

From my experience of working at a tack shop that does leather repairs I can tell you I see more of those bridles come in broken then anything else. And the quality of the bridle is not very good for the price point.

While I agree that the leather quality of the standard bridle is quite poor, I cannot agree with the assertion that they don’t help at all. In my experience of seeing/knowing many horses that have tried them or currently go in them, for some horses they are a godsend. For other horses they are neutral and some horses don’t like them. I’m not sure why some people are trying so hard to discourage people from trying them or implying that people who use them are harming their poor stoic horse’s noses (???) No one has said everyone should use them so why the overreaction?

Apologies if my post came across that no one should use them. They certainly do not harm horses (from what I’ve seen) and they certainly don’t hurt to try but I would not go out and buy one thinking it may work miracles as that as not been my experience with them thus far. I would encourage OP to try to find one to borrow for a day or so and then if she likes the bridle, go out and go buy one, but it is a lot of money to drop on a piece of equipment that in my opinion is not good quality. The PS of Sweden bridles are beautiful and I think follow a similar type of theory, but those are even more expensive.

My lease mare goes in a micklem. She got a tick bite on her chin, so I buckled the chin strap under the bit like a normal caveson, I don’t see a difference in her at all.

Horses have different conformation of their heads! What works for one may not work with another so you cannot assume that one type will fit. You just have to try. With one horse that I had with a weird shaped head, a figure 8 fit her comfortably. No need for a micklem. I find many horses have brow bands that are too tight.

Always listen to what the horse is telling you. That is what I do!

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As the inventor of the Micklem bridle I would like to point out that it is NOT supposed to be fitted tightly…and that is not a good word to use. I describe the way the two back straps should be done up as like you are taking your grandmother down the street and holding her hand…you must not hold her hand tightly and risk hurting her but equally you don’t want her hand to slip out. When well fitted it has proved to be a small miracle worker and without doubt it solves the problem of damage and discomfort inside the mouth because of the upper jaw being so much wider than the bottom jaw, and without doubt it avoids the pressure on the motor and sensory nerves that often happens with a normal cavesson noseband. and without doubt it offers a great alternative to low dropped nosebands, which I think should be banned. The Multibridle is also the best lunge cavesson you can find. I won’t go on but at least people are now stimulated to think of changes and alternatives to bridleware and nosebands, and that can only be good for horses. Thank you all for being so involved in this subject and making us think about what we do. W

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Thank you for chiming in. One wonders, are there any more ergonomical designs or tweaks to this in the works?

Out of curiosity, do you feel dropped nosebands should be banned? Is it because of the pressure a poorly fitted one puts across the bridge of the nose? Or is it because of the nerve under the jaw that the drop could potentially put too much pressure on?

I won’t lie, I had a really, really hard time finding a drop noseband for one particular project of mine that possessed the nasal prominence of a moose. They do seem to be very difficult to adjust/find - my frequent problem was the part that went across the nose was too short, while the strap under the jaws too long - which made the rings of the drop produce pressure right on the nasal flesh which wasn’t the result I wanted. In order for most of them to be effective, one has to tighten them an awful lot.

The pros, however, seem to be that a properly fitted one is very adjustable when it comes to the position of it, without affecting the tightness or constriction of the bridle - a good one can help stabilize a bit in a fussy youngster and IMHO, is my preferred way of restarting my OTTBs into dressage.

Yes I do feel low dropped nosebands should be banned. As ever I need more time and money for research … in a life that is already super stretched like so many of us! However all my initial visits to both abattoirs and veterinary colleges showed a number of fractures in the two narrow bones at the bottom of the nose. As I said more research needs to be carried out but I believe where low dropped nosebands are used on young horses there is increased sensitivity in this area and as horses are first time learners they remember this in the future even when healed. Certainly if anyone wants to use a dropped noseband the Micklem bridle has to be the most comfortable version you can find and will have all the advantages you describe without the disadvantages. Have a happy day with your horses… W

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I just want to say thank you for your stopping in with your expert opinion! This is one reason I love Coth so much.

I see the way of the future being without nosebands. I mean, really, what is their purpose other than to hold the mouth shut?

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William, thank you for your reply and clarification on the fitting issue. I am delighted to hear from the designer himself.

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