There is one of these on Ebay right now. I checked and the tree is probably too narrow for my horse. 
I love the looks of it.
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There is one of these on Ebay right now. I checked and the tree is probably too narrow for my horse. I love the looks of it.[/QUOTE]
Youāre probably right. I had a wide-tree model for my QH mare (who isnāt all that wide). Keep an eye on eBay - they come up there fairly often and really are super comfortable.
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There is one of these on Ebay right now. I checked and the tree is probably too narrow for my horse.[/QUOTE]
I just checked, and there are TWO on eBay right now. The other one says it has a āW-MWā (wide-medium wide) tree but doesnāt give measurements. Only one pic, but the price is certainly right. Might be worth contacting the seller to get measurements:
No fittings, but thatās a perfect excuse to get a set of Gary Mundy leathers. 
I had those on my Marathon and, like everyone else, LOVED them.
Wow Libertyā¦that must be new. I was just looking last night. 18" sounds HUGE though. Iām a little bitty person. The other person said they are super hard to measure well so maybe itās not as huge as it sounds?
Thanks for all the replies! It has been very educational! You never know I may end up riding endurance next! Iāve done just about everything else!
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Do those Sensation Treeless saddles have a gullet?[/QUOTE]
They have somewhat of a gulletā¦they are recommended to be used in conjunction with a pad made for treeless saddles that creates the spinal channel though. I use a Skito pad under mine with one inch firm foam inserts beefed up with 1/4" poron foam inserts on top (since I am a heavier rider) This set up gives me all the clearance my horse needs. He is very slightly A framed with low to medium withers. We rode over 20 miles over the weekend and my butt never knew it. since you are a smaller person you probably wonāt have so much trouble finding good spinal clearanceā¦as the rider weight increases it becomes more challenging to get proper clearance.
Daydream Believer - Iām pasting below a response I made recently to a similar question, regarding the Tucker model I use (Iāve ridden this model for about 10 years).
I use a Tucker Equitation Endurance, which has western type tree, no horn but a nice high pommel that would make you feel secure plus very comfy seat. Uses English-style girth and has free-hanging English leathers so you can avoid the chair-seat, plus the leathers can be placed above or under the flap (no pinching!). Very nice quality leather and weighs about 22 lbs. I use mine for competitive trail and LD endurance. FYI, Tucker also makes an endurance model with fixed western-type fenders and cinch, so be sure youāre looking at the āEquitationā model for the free-swinging leathers. Iād also look for the āclassicā style rather than the new āGen IIā style which has more bulk under the leg, I think. Theyāre not cheap but they do hold their value well for re-sale and people jump on used ones when they can find them.
Someone also recommended the Tucker Plantation, which is also very comfortable; I donāt know if it comes with the English stirrup leathers or only with fixed western-type fenders, so youād want to see which you prefer.
They have a good rep but Iāve only ridden in one and is chafed heck out of my calves, of all places. The flap on that particular one ended right about even with the tops of my tall boots. Whether it was the build of the horse, a little fat mare, or the saddle I canāt say, but my memory is that my rear was OK but knees and calves, ooh, ouch.
Itās amazing that you can ride in a saddle for half an hour lesson and itās fine but then spend a few hours and youāll find a huge difference. Try before you buy if you can.
Have you seen the new Cross Trail? Its only 21 lbs and very comfortable! Low ground seat for close contact, very little skirting for the same reasonā¦ memory foam pannels, instead of fleece, ā¦ it is a western saddle designed with the english rider in mind. http://gallopinggrape.com/crosstrailfullquarterhorsebars-allseatsizes.aspx
galloping grapeā¦too funny but I found your website and am checking out your endurance saddles now. I see you have one similar to the Marathon style of Collegiate and Crosby. How funny for the timing of your post!
That saddle you linked is really cool. I only wish it did not have the saddle horn!
Iāve had saddle horns cut off for cheap! Replaced it with a nice piece of leatherā¦ saddle is perfect! Iām a western rider and Iāve had my shirt caught on a horn when the horse was buckingā¦ not fun!
I know someone who had her shirt and bra ripped off when she tried to do a fast dismount and caught her foot in the slickerā¦horse was spooked by this and trotted off while she was hung by her bra/shirt which gave way completely. I was there. It was hysterical. Iāve never laughed so hard in my life. Bra was broken and she had to ride home with just a shirt on for several more hours. As embarrassing at is was, my friend took it in good humor and I even have a pic of her holding her broken bra.
I usually manage to catch my belt on the horn. I never thought about cutting off the horn though. Interesting idea!
Tuckers weigh a TON.
Also tend to put you in a chair position.
But, gee I canāt get over how HEAVY they are. I prefer a lighter saddle to lift each and EVERY time on my horse.
I hate horns. Very dangerous. Also if you TRUELY trail or endurance, a horn would get in the way when on the trail.
I ride in a Solstice.
I just got a Tucker Plantation this summer, with english stirrups. The only thing I donāt like about it is how darn heavy it is, but Iām strong enough to hoist it on my pony so I figure itās not like Iām carrying it up a flight of stairs or anything. My butt is thankful for this saddle, and my knees are as well. I was surprised at how well I could still ārideā because other people said it would put me in a chair seat. I can kind of adjust the way I sit to GET a chair seat, which is something I couldnāt do in my dressage saddle, and honestly this is an added bonus for my knees and ankles somehow. I can also ride in it like a dressage saddle, to some extent. I like the high pommel/cantle for my old selfās security. It adds a new dimension to dismounting however. I think it was worth the $ because the only other saddle I ever actually for myself lasted me 25 years so if I can get 25 years out of this oneā¦ well Iām not even sure Iāll be riding in 25 years but you get the picture. Iām going to have this saddle longer than the horse itās on right now, why skimp?
My husband has an Aussie that Iāve ridden in. Itās comfy too, it has really wide stirrup leathers, not quite western but def not english. The polleys in front of the thighs make it very secure but kind of ālockā me in. I donāt even like knee rolls, so the polleys just feel too restrictive, but thatās my personal preference. Also my Tucker Plantation has no knee rolls so while the pommel/cantle keep me feeling secure, my leg doesnāt feel locked in place by a big knee roll or polley which is exactly what I was looking for.
I got hung up on my horn only once but it was pretty scary-my vest caught on it as I dismounted, my muddy foot slipped out of the stirrup and doink-there I was, hung on the horn, no stirrup, and unable to reach the ground. My feet found a rock to stand on or it could have been ugly-I was alone in the mountains. Good pony didnāt panic.
I got my kid a saddle without a horn for that reason tooā¦
But-I canāt pull a packhorse or a log without one. I donāt like those straight up horns, I like a nice lowset pelican type hornā¦flat top.
The River Plantation has no knee rolls at all, zip. and the Plantation is not heavy- sure it is, compared to a dressage saddle, but heavy? Pick up their monster square skirted trail saddles.
In 30 years of horses Iāve been hung from a horn once, on a cutting saddle. Youād have to get risque with my current saddleās horn to get hung up on it 
I had a hard to fit horse before Biscuit - I had a brand new Billy Cook that was defective and tore up his backā¦they replaced it. I tried a Steele saddle but it didnāt fit me. I had two Aussie saddles - one with and one without a horn. I love Aussie Saddles.
When I got Biscuit I didnāt want a bunch of saddle merry go round. I looked at a zillion companies and decided on the Allegany Mountain Trail Saddle http://trailridingsaddles.com/ and I ended up ordering this saddle http://trailridingsaddles.com/saddles/saddle-gallery/renegade-endurance-saddles.html but with a horn.
They sent forms to try on my horse before settling on a tree that would fit my horse. I got to choose options for it and I can say that I absolutely love it. I ran into a lady in Louisiana that had the same saddle as the black pictured - no horn - and she was like me - loved her saddle and working with Staci who owns the company. The saddle has nice leather, the seat is uber comfy, the hardware is gorgeous and has plenty of ties on it - 8 in all along with lots of rings to attach anything I need to the saddle.
All for way less than a Tucker. It is light weight too! I love it and most of all, it fits Biscuit to a tee and after having saddle fitting problems - that is so nice!
Here is a picture of Biscuit tacked up in his Allegany (scroll down through the pics til you come to the Pally with the saddle)
http://dashingbigred.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2011-09-22T05%3A48%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=30
I have a Specialized. Theyāre nice lightweight saddles. http://specializedsaddles.com/specialized-endurance-saddles-endurancesaddles-trailsaddle/
Desoto saddles
I have ridden in several styles of Tuckers and at times really enjoyed them. They hold their resale very well Iāve sold several on ebay.
The cheyenne and endurance models were most comfortable for me. Did not like the equitation endurance (donāt care for english leathers on the trail) and hated the High Plains model. I havenāt ridden in a Tucker since they were bought by Circle Y (or maybe Circle Y bought Tucker canāt remember) so the above only applies to the older Tuckers.
However, the stirrups are set forward so you wonāt have a dressage/english seat. They were difficult to post in for long distances but OK for an hour or two. I found the gel seat to be comfortable but agree with others that said it puts you up off the horse.
My husband and I also trail ride and camp and after trying many saddles I finally found Marilyn Horstmeyer in Michigan. She makes Desoto saddles a google will find her. They are reasonably priced.
She usually has a wait, but she has made two saddles for me and each one fits the horse and me wonderfully. She made one for my arab and one for my foxtrotter.
Here are the attributes of her saddles that sparked my interest: wooden tree custom fit to your horse; endurance style with a dressage position; no horn; western style fenders; western-type tree for a larger weight bearing surface; 16 pounds; close contact.
It is the most comfortable saddle Iāve ever ridden in english or western. I grew up riding english and prefer an english saddle but wanted a traditional western tree.
I cannot say enough good things about her saddles I love love love mine. If I ever get another horse Iāll order another.
Good luck.
My Husband cut the tall skinny horn off of my Bob Marshall this morning! Those things can kill ya! I keep a strap around the pommel, kind like an english "oh sh*t! strapā¦ I think in the western world its called a night latchā¦
We called those chicken straps back when I was eventing! No shame in having one!
