Thoughts on this guy? This is my new one and he’s definitely a different type of TB than I’ve had in the past… he seems very much like what I’m used to the british horses looking like (I’m guessing that’s his Danzig showing 
). I did notice Teddy many times in there too as I kept digging futher back. If you scroll down on the page it shows all the crosses. http://sporthorse-data.com/d?i=10983011&blood=10"a=
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Interesting. How do you feel about Pioneering? Yay for the Terlingua, boo for the Mr P?[/QUOTE]
In a word Yes. But there are alot more details that go into an analysis of any mating.
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Interesting. How do you feel about Pioneering? Yay for the Terlingua, boo for the Mr P?
I picked up a Pioneering from the track this summer. He’s really turning into a lovely horse. He bowed two tendons, so he’s been on the rehab track, but from what I can see in the field, he’s a floaty, big mover with a dressage frame. I spoke with a man who worked with Pioneering at Overbrook and has raced many of his get, and he’s got nothing but nice things to say about their temperament and soundness.
Granted, Pigs also has a really nice damline: Piggy Church
And, speaking of Teddy, he’s got 24 crosses to Teddy, 19 of those through his dam. Shame she’s disappeared.
(Wow, I have a filly with 41 crosses to Teddy?! Am I doing this right? Are we limiting to a certain number of generations? <a href=“http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=10777711&blood=10"a=”>Sporthorse Database shows 23 from the sire’s side and 18 from the dam.)[/QUOTE]
Pioneering is a nice-looking horse!
ok…I’m dense…and lack of sleep but how the hell do your read these pedigrees!!!
This is one of my mares…I’ve ridden her through Prelim and she is an outstanding mover and jumper. She’s half sister to my 2* horse and other sister did a 1*–all capable of more. Her first two foals are extremely nice…and I am trying to decide whether to breed her again, or keep riding her… and thought after this thread, perhaps I need to take a closer look at her “engine”
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=10984878&blood=10"a=
She was bred by Jonathan Shephard but was sold when still by her dam into a sport home.
So what does 4.8% Teddy mean???
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So what does 4.8% Teddy mean???[/QUOTE]
This one is easy. Each generation is assigned a percentage–the first, the sire and dam each contribute 50% to the foal. Makes sense, right? The second generation you’ve got 4 grandparents, so it’s 25% to each of them. The third generation, you have 8 great-grandparents, so each contributes 12.5%. And so and and so forth.
The 4.8% is the influence of each instance of Teddy all added up. So on top (on the sire’s side), you have him once in the 7th generation for 0.78% and once in the 8th generation for 0.39%, for 1.17% (or 1.2%) Teddy. Add that to what you get from the dam and your mare is 4.8% Teddy–that is his influence on the pedigree, which would put him between the 4th and 5th generation (if a pedigree was a simple mathematical exercise…we know it’s really more complicated that that.)
The farther back, the less the influence, but the more instances, the more you can bring an ancestor up to the front. My filly, for example, has 41 Teddy’s in her pedigree, but is only at 5.0%–barely more than your mare–because Teddy is so much farther back.
This is all probably far more important when looking within the first five generations, where–for example–Blushing Groom twice in the fourth generation lends the same influence as having him once in the third.
Thanks. That helped. Interesting. I plugged in my other riding horse–potential broodmare when she is done competing. She has a decent amount of Teddy…but more interesting to me is she is also Family 9 (same as my other mare Charm). So I wonder if I’m just drawn to that family 
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=10984919&blood=10"a=
ETA: And to bring it back to this discussion a bit…Dark Ronald is also Family 9. And while Teddy and other sire lines are interesting…dam lines are too;)
