I use these http://www.feedritebag.com/index.html however I usually order them from Valley Vet along with other supplies so I get free shipping.
I donāt know why they donāt just use the pellets in it, no reason to add the shreds or golf balls
Because itās a beet pulp based feed. Itās a mix of soft pellets and beet pulp shreds. Because there is molasses in it, it can clump as most sweet feeds do.
Iāve fed Triple Crown Senior for at least 10 years now, both soaked and unsoaked with no problems. My TC Senior is milled by Southern Statesācurious to know if those that have had choke problems are in the same region as they are manufactured/milled by region.
I had never seen a choke in 40 years of owning horses until I switched to TC Senior. Within one year I had three horses experience serious chokes. Did not make any difference how they were fed, one used a bucket in his stall, one a pan on the ground, and the third a Feed Rite bag.
I was also picking out large chunks of hard beet pulp.
I am now feeding TC Complete as well as Lite and 30% and have not had any more problems. I would never use or recommend TC Senior. When I called TC with my concern, they were not interested. Very disappointing.
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Because itās a beet pulp based feed. Itās a mix of soft pellets and beet pulp shreds. Because there is molasses in it, it can clump as most sweet feeds do.
Iāve fed Triple Crown Senior for at least 10 years now, both soaked and unsoaked with no problems. My TC Senior is milled by Southern Statesācurious to know if those that have had choke problems are in the same region as they are manufactured/milled by region.[/QUOTE]
These were not clumpsā¦these were huge chunks of unshredded beet pulp, sometimes as large as my hand. Plus at least a scoop of corn in each bag. I loved TC and sung their praises high and low, but when I had to drive a 70 mile round trip to get it, pay $20 a bag for it, and still have to pick through each serving? No thanks. Especially not when the horses looked better on Purinaā¦who would have thought? :lol:
Hmmm⦠in my area TC is milled by Blue Seal. I have NEVER had a hand sized chunk of beet pulp and never seen any corn!! I used to feed complete and I never saw corn in that either- just the pellets and oats.
After reading this I did look through my senior and the biggest chunk I could find was about an inch by 1/4 inch and very thin.
It is disappointing to hear that TC is not handling the complaints very well. Clearly, they have heard of this problem before.
I get my TC from Southern States here, and after reading through this thread checked mine. In the two bags I opened, I didnāt find any clumps larger than my thumbnail- and those broke up easily. No corn either.
I wonder how much of it is a local issue.
Iām in NC near SC if that helps. I have found pieces thumbnail size which is big enough to cause choke on a horse susceptible and perhaps not as in my case. Itās not certain if the first choke was from it or not but, the vet swears that some of what she got out of her the first time WERE pieces of BP and 2 of the horses sheās out with her on it. Iād just be careful and Iām not saying donāt feed it but, perhaps do let it soak for a bit before feeding
Iāve fed TC Senior dry with no other feed (except hay) for a couple years. No choke. Also I have never seen chunks of beet pulp or a drop of corn. Have broken up clumps because it froze, etc.
My TC comes from the Kent feed mill in northern IA.
Iām in NC near SC if that helps. I have found pieces thumbnail size which is big enough to cause choke on a horse susceptible and perhaps not as in my case. Itās not certain if the first choke was from it or not but, the vet swears that some of what she got out of her the first time WERE pieces of BP and 2 of the horses sheās out with her on it. Iād just be careful and Iām not saying donāt feed it but, perhaps do let it soak for a bit before feeding
Yours would be milled by Southern States then.
makes me think then that SS has a different formula or methodā¦hmmm
Another TC Senior feeder and no issues ever in quality, consistency or with chokes.
Only chokes Iāve had where with 3 different horses and a Seminole feed now called Wellness Safe Performance. I will not ever feed that again. Come to find out my vet had a lot of calls for choke with that particular feed.
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makes me think then that SS has a different formula or methodā¦hmmm[/QUOTE]
not necessarily, mine are SS and Iāve never had a problem and some of the folks here with choke issues are not in the south. not sure what it could be now.
after i read again and looked at locations it does seem more problems were East coastersā¦anyhow, for me i have to pass for now although I do love the feed otherwise
They are now getting Safe Choice (which I have used in the past and itās fine, and I donāt have another senior option at my feed store) with some alf pellets and tim/alf cubes, and some oil ALL soaked. Seems to be OK so far! The herd are all hard keepers for various reasons that I canāt change
We field an occasional complaint on choke on all feed forms that we produce as horses do on occasion choke. I had one of my own horses choke quite severely on hay and it is an unpleasant and unsettling experience. It is not unusual that whatever feed form customers experience a choking episode with , this is the feed they want to avoid. We have customers that refuse to feed textured feeds, pelleted feeds and beet pulp feeds.
After a choking episode there can be esophageal changes or lesions that occur that may leave these individuals at risk for more choking episodes and it is beneficial to soak their feed to prevent this from occurring. Older individuals with poor dentition are also more prone to choke as are the horses that tend to bolt their feeds. There have been some very beneficial tips posted such as stones or a small salt bricks to slow horses down, feeding on the ground, separating individuals to reduce competition etc⦠etc⦠But one of the most important factors to help prevent choke that I believe went unmentioned and one of the more common reasons that we find for choking episodes are in barns where there may be inconsistent feeding schedules where horses become anxious and this is when we can have several chokes at the same time. We have all come home late and had very anxious horses waiting at the gate and feed waiting in the bucket and this is certainly a recipe for the eventual choke.
It may be of interest for all of you to know that the beet pulp we use to manufacture our feeds and the plain or molasses beet pulp you purchase to supplement your horses diets are all from the same source. We can see beet pulp shreds vary slightly in size from a more fine shred to a larger more coarse shred. The beet pulp goes through a screening process to eliminate any larger pieces and if a large piece the size of a hand made it through the system, this is highly unusual and we definitely need that information so we can rectify the problem.
We apologize if someone received poor customer service from us as this was not our intention and we truly pride ourselves on being helpful, informative and receptive to our customers.
Iām a huge fan of Triple Crown feeds and have yet to run across any quality issues like those described here. I feed Triple Crown Complete. I have one mare who cannot eat any sort of pelleted feed w/o choking- to the extent that my DH forgot and hand fed her a treat of alfalfa pellets and she promptly developed a mild choke. She can eat TCC and hasā¦for the last 4 years.
wow, TC came on to chatā¦interesting. To be clear itās not a TC bash itās simply that there seems to be quality issues for some. Iāve always enjoyed their feeds and quality until now and would use other feeds like Lite, etc.
She said something in regards to feed times and my horses are fed (within 30 min) at the same times each day.
She also talked about issues in the throat which for this mare do exists now from the first choke and who knows what is really in there, so nothing new with that
There are pieces of beet pulp in the feed that are very hard and without water could cause an issue to an unsuspecting horse and owner, do soak because you never know is all I am taking away from this
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But one of the most important factors to help prevent choke that I believe went unmentioned and one of the more common reasons that we find for choking episodes are in barns where there may be inconsistent feeding schedules where horses become anxious and this is when we can have several chokes at the same time. We have all come home late and had very anxious horses waiting at the gate and feed waiting in the bucket and this is certainly a recipe for the eventual choke.
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When all 5 of my broodmares choked at the same time, they were fed right on their normal schedule. I have 45-50 horses here on my farm and it is my full time job, so it was not a case of ācame home and fed lateā. They were not even waiting at the gate, they did not run to the gate and their feed was spread out in the grass (in their own piles). The only thing that was different was that I opened a new bag of grain that day. I had never experienced a single case of choke in my 25+ years of horses prior to those episodesā¦
after i read again and looked at locations it does seem more problems were East coastersā¦anyhow, for me i have to pass for now although I do love the feed otherwise
True, but there are two manufacturers on the East Coast, Southern States and Blue Seal. S.States only services up to maybe Maryland I think. Since TC themselves do not manufacture the feeds, the quality issues would need to be broken down by region for them to be able to pinpoint the cause and source.
I recently have been seeing large golfball size pieces of beet pulp in the TC senior not happy with the product anymore took it back. Not worth the choke risk.
Nine year old thread alert.
@Pepinator contact Triple Crown with your feedback. They take their product quality very seriously.