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The Shermans should keep their mouths shut.[/QUOTE]
The weird thing is that I’ve only seen that from the guardian. Every other story I’ve read has had the shermans sounding, at worst, neutral.
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The Shermans should keep their mouths shut.[/QUOTE]
The weird thing is that I’ve only seen that from the guardian. Every other story I’ve read has had the shermans sounding, at worst, neutral.
Well, they can just buy out the 70% owner or show some class and shut up, Sound like a 12 year old whining. Thank heavens they didn’t win the TC, imagine the drivel they woukd have had us listening to.
APs connections have been nothing but gracious and humbled by their horse’s achievement, what a contrast to the CC sideshow showcasing stunningly bad sportsmanship.
Watching the Today show right now, interview with Baffert and Espinoza sitting in front of the barn and AP himself standing between them. Humans are being modest. Horse looks like a big pet, doesn’t even have the chain over his nose, just standing between the guys like a kid horse.
BTW, I don’t think CC looks bad at all in the crappy post workout shot. Plus he looks stunning in other recent shots.
The FB page … Foil hats …
Don’t forget that Chrome was injured out of the gate at last year’s Belmont, and there’s no proof it wasn’t intentional.
Say what?
I was surprised today watching the comments about last years Belmont. Not one of the 3 reporters said anything about Chromes injury. whats up with that? It seemed like they didnt know anything about it. strange
Not everyone is obsessed with CC. Amazing.
And the discussion about how he shouldn’t be “crossing a street” without security:
This is California Chrome England! An American Icon, Get him some security! Remember, we did it for the Beatles.
Good for a Sunday morning laugh.
I think the owners just fancied Royal Ascot! Top hats, HRH and all that - there’s nothing like it. https://www.ascot.co.uk/royal-ascot-2015-new
Newmarket stops for race horses. The whole place works and exists for them. Those ignorant buffoons need some edumacation ! He is just another horse there.
You know, eats grass, doesn’t take drugs and walks to the gallops just like any other horse.
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Newmarket stops for race horses. The whole place works and exists for them. Those ignorant buffoons need some edumacation ! He is just another horse there.
You know, eats grass, doesn’t take drugs and walks to the gallops just like any other horse.[/QUOTE]
Seriously! It’s horsey heaven over there! He’d be ‘another horse’ over here, too–but SoCal style, meaning no big open grass gallops, hot, dry, weather, lather rinse repeat. He’s a working racehorse with a majority owner with guts to try something out of the box for a US horse.
Going out at sunrise; https://youtu.be/MaF8ddYmNrs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwgLrxK7PUU
Open day; https://youtu.be/ZI87HOZHtAE
With all this talk and reference to CC being “America’s Horse” over at Ascot and being referred to as such by his Chromie fans…is it classless of me after yesterday to think: “CALIFORNIA CHROME WHO!?” :winkgrin:
Probably. Oh well. Two good horses.
Racing Post;
[h=1]California Chrome ride[/h] BY LEWIS PORTEOUS2:01PM 7 JUN 2015
WILLIAM BUICK has been snapped up for the vacant ride on last year’s Kentucky Derby winner California Chrome in the Prince of Wales’s Stakes at Royal Ascot.
Saturday’s Derby-winning rider Frankie Dettori partnered the Art Sherman-trained Classic winner at Ascot last week, but with Dettori claimed for the ride on John Gosden’s Western Hymn in the June 17 Group 1, Buick will step in.
“They’ve asked me to find out if he can ride him and as far as I know he can, and all being well William rides,” said Rae Guest, who is housing California Chrome at his yard in Newmarket.
California Chrome’s connections are well aware of Buick’s riding prowess, having suffered defeat behind the Buick-partnered Prince Bishop in the Dubai World Cup on California Chrome’s last start.
Guest added: “They wanted Frankie but as he can’t ride they wanted another top European jockey. He won the Dubai World Cup and they’re very happy with him and he’ll be available, which is the main thing.”
On the horse’s wellbeing, Guest said: “He worked well at Ascot and we’re still pleased with him. He was very tired when he came from Dubai but he looks a lot better now. All is going well.”
They will be all over this – his jockey won’t ride him now! Something’s wrong! It’s a deliberate attempt to sabotage him! Or something even more nutty.
Or, maybe they got the jockey who beat him last time to ride him this time, which sounds like a good plan.
Ascot is a track you have to know, to get the best out of a horse - not just flat and 2 turns.
http://www.goonersguide.com/images_racing/ascot-racecourse-plan.jpg
Flat: Right-handed triangular track, just under 1¾ miles long. The round course descends from the mile-and-a-half (2,400m) start into Swinley Bottom, the lowest part of the track. It then turns right-handed and joins the Old Mile Course, which starts as a separate chute 1,600m from the finish. The course then rises to the right handed home turn over a new underpass to join the straight mile course. The run in of about 3 furlongs (600m) rises slightly to the winning post. The whole course is of a galloping nature with easy turns.
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Going out at sunrise; https://youtu.be/MaF8ddYmNrs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwgLrxK7PUU
Open day; https://youtu.be/ZI87HOZHtAE[/QUOTE]
Those Chromies ever see how horses live and work at Newmarket? CC probably is not missing that 10x10 stall 22 1/2 hours a day at Los Al and never seeing the horizon. At all. Thanks for posting those links. Lovely to watch…was humming the theme from Champions during the helmet cam gallop…what was that, a whole mile without going around a corner? Shocking way to treat a horse…and expecting them to steer and slow when you say whoa? Uphill and downhill too, not level? Shabby treatment indeed.
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The FB page … Foil hats …
Say what?
Not everyone is obsessed with CC. Amazing.
And the discussion about how he shouldn’t be “crossing a street” without security:
Good for a Sunday morning laugh.[/QUOTE]
The quotes from your post didnt come up, but I agree what a joke.
The way some of them go on about the Belmont and the “conspiracy” gate theory. They make it seem like someone placed a trip wire or hit the horse in the leg before he left the gate. News flash chromies War Emblem stumbled from the gate as well. A lot of horses stimble coming out of the gate.
I have one OTTB who has it on his race record. I had to treat a massive gash when I bought him. It happens. Horse had 47 starts before that and on his 48th he stumbled. Things happen.
I cant deal with the crazy race people. Also those photoshopped memorial pics freak me out. They do them for Barbaro and Zenyettas foal. Creepy.
Here are some previous runnings of the Prince of Wales, gives one an idea of the course, how the race is run and caliber of horses that contest that race.
2014, The Fugue beats Magican and Treve
2012, So You Think wins from the Queen’s horse Carlton House. American horse Big Blue Kitten was a runner that year, but faded badly in the stretch and was well beaten.
2007, Manduro beats Dylan Thomas
Here is a video of Chrome galloping at Ascot a few days ago… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIhVuGOjrkE&feature=youtu.be
How can you say that horse looks in bad shape? He looks fantastic. The sheen off his coat would blind you.
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He looks totally fine to me. Sweaty after a workout and funny lighting with the sun. He really is just fine! It probably is a bad decision as far as his career - he has very little chance of winning - but the horse is in good hands and is having a nice little diversion from the daily grind at Los Alamitos.[/QUOTE]
This. Racing fit and lean, post work, hasn’t had a bath yet, and unflattering phase of walk stride.
I dunno, the conspiracy theories are reasonable, only all the owners, trainers and riders in the race would need to know the fix was in and they needed to throw it so AP would take the TC and save racing. There were only about 100 or 200 people there and we know how easy it is to keep a secret at the track.
Same thing with sabotaging CC at the gate, only the stater and assistants, the 100k spectators at the track and the national TV cameras would see anything going on with the gate between its use in the previous race and the Belmont. Makes perfect sense.
If CC was robbed at the Belmont, what about the other nationally and internationally broadcast races he’s fallen short in? Oh, wait, that question demands a logical answer…
I used to not care how he did at Ascot, now I hope he wins for the new management.
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…was humming the theme from Champions during the helmet cam gallop…what was that, a whole mile without going around a corner? Shocking way to treat a horse…and expecting them to steer and slow when you say whoa? Uphill and downhill too, not level? Shabby treatment indeed.[/QUOTE]
This is Lambourn (mostly NH horses there) https://youtu.be/6KFGTrPK8Is
This is promotional, of course … but he looks like he’s thriving to me.
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I dunno, the conspiracy theories are reasonable, only all the owners, trainers and riders in the race would need to know the fix was in and they needed to throw it so AP would take the TC and save racing. There were only about 100 or 200 people there and we know how easy it is to keep a secret at the track.
Same thing with sabotaging CC at the gate, only the stater and assistants, the 100k spectators at the track and the national TV cameras would see anything going on with the gate between its use in the previous race and the Belmont. Makes perfect sense.
If CC was robbed at the Belmont, what about the other nationally and internationally broadcast races he’s fallen short in? Oh, wait, that question demands a logical answer…
I used to not care how he did at Ascot, now I hope he wins for the new management.[/QUOTE]
There were a lot of people who insisted the Boston Marathon was fixed last year (an American won for the first time in ages, on the one year anniversary of the bombing.) There is so much crazy out there.