I definitely saw riders stopped mid round at a recognized event for the CR, I think it was one of the first shows last year that the rule was in effect. So there has been clarification that riders are allowed to continue to the end of their round even on the 5 rails?
EV 150 says (bolding mine):
And EV 153:
The last sentence there has an effective date of 12/1/21 so it seems to be a clarification added after the CR ruleās first season.
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I think the wording is really tough to follow. If you arenāt allowed to continue, it is (in effect) elimination. So saying the CR is applied at the end of the round unless competitor is eliminated is like saying āall burned cheeseburgers will be destroyed unless they are inedible, in which case they will be destroyedā
Whether rung out during the round, or CR applied after the round, I do think it is an appropriate rule.
Says the girl that isnāt all that fond of new rules.
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Iām interested in the reasoning for the CR being a rule only for Training level and up.
Anyone?
Supposedly, when they did the statistical analysis they found a correlation between ātoo many show jumping railsā and āfalls on cross countryā at Training and above, but did not find the same correlation at Beginner Novice and Novice.
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Thank you. Thatās interesting.
LOL! I think what they meant was, āenforced at end of round unless competitor retires or is eliminated for other reasons.ā
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In Ontario, if you have refusals you are whistled out, I donāt see why you canāt stop someone mid-round for 5 rails. You blow the whistle, youāre done. Its deflating for sure and going to suck, but back to the drawing board.
Iāve seen some who constantly have more than 5 railsā¦ Itāll suck for their season, but means back to the drawing board.
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ACME, Skydy, Libby and LadyB.
A horse fall is Mandatory Retirement (MR) and the effect is the same as Elimination, but it is designated differently so that we can easily gather statistics and correctly categorize them (especially for EV105, loss of establishment). The reason is the same for CR; yes the effect is the same as Elimination but we want to know why that competitor did not continue and the CR notation makes that easy. Also because we do not whistle the competitor out after 20,so CR is different in that respect from ordinary Elimination. Competitors are not removed from the ring before the end of the round and after 20 jumping penalties because: what if the judge made a mistake? e.g. rider did not in fact cross his/her tracks (as shown by video) or an apparently fallen rail was is fact not reset after being dislodged by the previous horse. Thus the competitor has a opportunity to demonstrate their āinnocenceā and continue in the competition because they completed the show jumping phase. That would not be the case if they were whistled out after 20.
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Definitely this. Iāve seen some SJ judges miss a rail dropped and only knew because the timer or scribe called it to their attention.
Iād also say that the CR rule is based on horses that are demolishing fences with their front end (e.g., more likely to catch a leg and rotate over a fixed obstacle), and youāre much more likely to notice that than a horse thatās ticking it with their hind. If your rails are the āOh crap, I really missed that oneā kablooey punching out, you canāt ignore that, whereas the with the latter you may not even hear it fall.
I can also attest that some people either canāt hear a rail drop for whatever reason - age, disability, or even some who are so focused that they literally donāt notice.
OTOH - if youāre just completely blowing apart the course and itās clearly dangerous riding, the judge whistling you out mid-course under the CR rule is more easily justified than citing for dangerous riding (usually deemed by the TD).
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My Old Man gelding has such a loud high blow that I canāt hear anything except CHRR CHRR CHRR CHRR as we go along. Iāve got decent ears, too. 
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No. They were stopped for the CR.
I definitely saw riders stopped mid round at a recognized event for the CR, I think it was one of the first shows last year that the rule was in effect. So there has been clarification that riders are allowed to continue to the end of their round even on the 5 rails?
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Does anyone know if this rule is adopted by FEI also?
Thanks for the clarification! Jenn
After RRHT, I would say FEI did not adopt this rule. There are people with over 5 rails that finished.
Yeah I guess not! Some had 7!!
Dumb question but what is a CR?
Compulsory Retirement
Ah, thanks!
