The Green Monkey won't start at Saratoga after all

“To me, he was an incredible, incredible horse,” De Renzo said. “He had the feeling of a champion; he thinks he’s a champion. He was a tremendously fast horse, as we all know.”
Any tours of the Hartley / De Renzo Farm will require teleportation in order to get to the dream world they are living in.

Beam me up.

headdeskheaddeskhead*desk

Unbelievable. The quotes from the stallion managers, I mean, although I guess they’ve got to say something positive, even if alternate reality.

Any guesses for appropriate names for TGM future offspring?

Too Much Green.
Green Monkey Business.
Monkeying Around.

Ah yes, and the perfect one harkening back to the story behind his name:

Far from Par

Spanked.

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Well there are rumours that Jacko’s Neverland Ranch in California could be up for auction due to tax debts. It seems so fitting in many ways. So maybe they’ll open a CA outpost just for The Green Monkey :wink:

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HRE was ONLY retired because George Washington flopped in the stud barn. [/QUOTE]

This was the PR from Coolmore.

The alternative opinion was HRE’s empire was dwindling and he wasn’t likely to win the spring classics. It’s not like sons of Danehill are in short supply at Coolmore.

Years ago I bought a 4 year old Affirmed gelding, who they paid 4.1 million for at the yearling sales and I am going back about 20 years ago so it was a heck of a sum back then!
He could run but didnt want to - he’d plain stop in the stretch and that was that, and they decided that gelding him might keep his mind on running, so they now had a 4.1M gelding that still didnt want to run either …

I picked him up for $1000.00 and sold him to a show home which suited him a whole lot better …

Another 17.3hh 3 year old they had paid just over $500,000.00 for as a yearling but he was so big and so long, he couldnt fit comfortably in the starting gate so when everyone else broke, he kind of scrambled around a bit before he could get his legs under him and they were long gone before he even thought about running … I picked him up for $2000.00 and he turned out to be a wonderful event horse …

So I guess the moral of the stories are, that just because someone is wealthy and pays lots of money for you AND you are by a hot sire and get the best trainer in the world and the best jockey and hot walker too, and all the publicity money and fame can buy, it all means 0 in the end if a) you cant run b) you dont WANT to run and c) you are not sound enough to run … :wink:

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Monkey Wrench
Brass Monkey
Grease Monkey
Monkey See Monkey Do
Green Means Go

although in this case, green didn’t mean go. At least, not quickly.

The TB Times of Feb 12, 2008 had a few bit more of nuggets of info regarding his stud prospects …

A stud fee has not been set, but Hartley said a fee of around $5,000 might be set. Hartley said it was too late to line up enough mares in 2008.

“We already had a few new stallions in, and we didn’t want to get him started late,” he said. "We want to get the same bunch of mares to him that we got to City Place. Those mares are grouped up to The Green Monkey next year, about 20 to 25 of our own mares. We’ll get 125 to 150 mares to him his first season. We’re already getting calls.

“People want to breed to the most expensive horse in the world. We’re gonna try to make something work. He was too talented for something not to work out of this horse.”

If I were so foolish as to own an offspring of this critter, I’d think the only appropriate name would be “Monkey on my back.”

“People want to breed to the most expensive horse in the world. We’re gonna try to make something work. He was too talented for something not to work out of this horse.”

Since we’ve ruled out racing, does anyone know exactly what this horse was talented at?

I hope they own 100+ mares themselves because that’s got to be the only way they’ll get those kinds of numbers.

Regardless of the spin provided by the owners, why would anyone want to breed to “the most expensive horse in the world” unless he had the performance to go with his price tag?

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Well he was very fast at a furlong. And I gather he looked good in the ring. :smiley:

BloodHorse 3-5-08 "‘Green Monkey’ Sister Seeks First Win "

Out of the Unbridled mare Magical Masquerade, who is also the dam of the $16-million 2-year-old purchase The Green Monkey, the Florida-bred Vindication filly - Coat the Cubes - will go postward in the second race at Hollywood Casino at Penn National Race Course in Pennsylvania March 6.

Good luck to her :slight_smile:

I am astounded that anyone would think this filly’s accomplishments–or lack thereof–are worthy of a news story in the BloodHorse. In 5 tries, most recently at Penn National, she has yet to break her maiden. All that story does is make me think that she’s about as talented as her half brother.

I can’t imagine that the owners of either the dam or the Monkey would be happy to see her inadequacies publicized like that. :no:

I personally agree that getting mares to TGM will be a challenge-- you couldn’t give me a mare that was in foal to him for free. As far as expensive horses that are flops as race horses go, I have one standing in my pasture-- by Grand Slam out of a Gr1 stakes producing mare that sold for $1 million as a yearling who only managed to break his maiden at Saratoga, win his non-two at Churchill, and then promptly became a work horse in Patrick the Butcher’s stable-- since he lost his desire to run. He ended up at the barn I work for, and after four dissapointing starts with us, was given that’s right given to me to make a riding horse out of. Granted, he is gorgeous, and I think he has a lot of promise as a possible eventer, but let’s face it, great bloodlines don’t mean squat.

I have just one thing to say: Who the hell is coming up with these names?!?!? :eek:

I mean, I thought The Green Monkey was downright dumb, but I got where it came from. But Coat the Cubes??

Wow, that’s one talented family. Sure makes me want to pay $5000 to breed my own. :rolleyes:

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Didn’t the mare have another colt (besides TGM) that was a dud, too?

I can’t imagine why anyone would want to breed to him. For $5,000 you could breed to Repent. He was a graded stakes winner of over $1 million and he has a few graded stakes winners/performers in his first crop. OR…you could breed to The Green Monkey!!! Such a tough choice :lol:

$5,000 Stud fee (about $4,999 too much)

From The Bloodhorse.com- They’ve officially set the price at $5,000.

The Green Monkey, whose $16 million price is the highest ever for a horse sold at public auction, will begin his stallion career for a fee of $5,000 in 2009. He will stand at Randy Hartley and Dean De Renzo’s Hartley/De Renzo Thoroughbreds near Ocala, Fla.

“We think the fee represents good value, and we’ve had a lot of requests,” said Dan Rapp, the farm’s bloodstock consultant and stallion director. “We price our stallions so the breeders can make a profit. As for The Green Monkey, he’s in remarkable shape.”

Bred in Florida by Satish and Anne Sanan’s Padua Stables, The Green Monkey was bought for $16 million by Demi O’Byrne of Irish-based Coolmore Stud from Hartley/De Renzo Thoroughbreds, agent, at the 2006 Fasig-Tipton Florida February sale of 2-year-olds in training.

The Green Monkey raced three times, finishing third once and fourth twice, for Susan Magnier, Michael Tabor, and Derrick Smith. He was retired from racing this year.

A 4-year-old son of Forestry, The Green Money is out of the winning Unbridled mare Magical Masquerade.