Point Given
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No way. He was so calm and laid back. I saw him get a bath and he poised for pictures. Very mannerly.[/QUOTE]
And it’s also over 100 degrees and not breeding season. 
Point Given was a pisser when he was racing. But I’ve heard that he’s mellowed a little since he’s retired to stud.
Okay…I’ll give you that! 
All of the stallions at Three Chimneys were behaving very well this week, and GLAD to get a bath.
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In my limited experience, I’ve noticed the same thing. I’ve known 2 and they were both lovely but very hot. Not bad, just “busy” :winkgrin:[/QUOTE]
That’s funny. We just saw him and the guy said that, he was not mean but very um, energetic. And he was in perpetual motion. Then he’d POSE. LOL, what a ham.
To answer a few posts back when we saw Silver Hawk the guy said he WAS mean.
At Three Chimneys the lady said they didn’t ride Point Given anymore because he kept dumping the riders! He wasn’t mean though (she made a point of saying), just likes to dump people. Maybe by now they’ve found someone who can stay on him. She said that he was the only one they didn’t ride (and Smarty was there). That was a couple years ago now though. Unless the old guys are unsteady or in pain unsound, they really need the exercise even more than ever to keep them flexible and in shape.
Cure the Blues was a nasty stallion. He would savage his grooms and hurt more than one pretty badly…
Tiznow
I just helped my trainer give away a Tiznow son and he’s very sweet and quiet. And, he’s beautiful.
i had a strom cat grandson he was out of storm creek and he was pretty good he could not be made to do something or he would have a fit. i noticed with my storm cat he was great around some people and horrible around others he hated men i noticed but loved ladies and i had him for a long time i got him as a 2yr old! but undersaddle he was great just on the ground we had issues he was a big stricker and he kicked out alot but nothing too serious at heart he was a big love bug but he had to have the im a tough man look
Standouts for being easy: Monarchos, Even the Score, Tiznow (very sweet and animated), Aljabr, Afleet Alex, Marquetry, Rahy, Swain, and yes, Point Given (I even saw him breed and he was a perfect gentleman). Another one surprisingly laid back was Pulpit. His foals may have a screw loose, and he was difficult at the track, but a stallion’s life suits him.
Malibu Moon was reportedly “very naughty” when he came to Castleton Lyons, and is still one to watch out for. Runaway Groom was fine as long as he was treated with respect. Same for Slew City Slew and Unbridled’s Song. Harlan’s Holiday is a card, and loves to play the tongue game with his groom, but he’s in charge. FuPeg was extremely calm, but knows he’s important and likes to be admired.
Not so good? Smarty Jones was definitely fed up with tourists when I was there, and threatened to kick out a couple times. Repriced’s groom called him a turkey under his breath, and the horse was clearly not adored. Seeking the Gold is unpredictable–Claiborne’s stallion manager said that he will be fine sometimes and dangerous at others. Dayjur is a cranky old SOB. Victory Gallop is mischevious–not really mean, but like puppy that doesn’t know limits. Honor and Glory is a self-savager.
As far as progeny of stallions, I’ve worked with a bunch of Valley Crossings and Allen’s Prospects, and they are tough–as a friend of mine says diplomatically “they take a horseman” to handle them. You just have to be firm with limits. My Gorky Park gelding is easy, but has a bit of a spook, and that is apparently typical of “Dorky Gorkies.” I’ve worked with two by Cahill Road and they were easy and sweet.
I don’t think he’s been mentioned yet. Some of my favorite racehorses have been by him. And boy, does he throw some classy looking babies…
I can’t say I’ve seen his self-savaging tendancies inherited by any of his progeny, though.
I have a Hoist the Flag granddaughter and she is the sweetest mare I have ever known. She had obviously been neglected/abused by her former owner but she is just eating up the love she gets now.
Once when I was at Claiborne and asked to see Danzig, the handler was not very eager to get him because according to the handler, he was so mean. When he went into his pasture, Danzig chased him and tried to bite him. But when Danzig came to the fence and I talked to him softly, he was just a sweetheart. I really think so much is in the way you treat them. I’ve seen people trying to load their horses in a trailer, trying to force them in. I never intrude but when I’m asked, I take the lead and calmly walk them in on the first try. It works every time.
Funny. I have a halo offspring and he is extremely quiet and respectful. He has always been a mouthy kind of guy, like to chew things but know very well he is not to touch me with his lips or teeth.
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