More that the jockey failed to control his horse, I would think.
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It was an objection as well as a Stewardâs inquiry:
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It wouldnt be the first time the outcome of a sporting event would be challenged in court because of calls made by officials that completely changed the outcome. Iâm not saying they should sue, just that if they do they have some arguments that deserve some consideration and thought. Personally, I think they should just focus on blowing away the competition in the next two TC races and the BC later this season, make that their statement.
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2019 Kentucky Derby: What Happens When Snowflakes Become Jockeys
I say this only half tongue in cheek because I deal with college students who will cry foul at ANYTHING (even invent things) to improve their grade.
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They just showed the slow-motion film. Why they didnât show it while all the hoopla was going on I donât know. I thought it looked clearer in slo-mo what happened with MS and War of Will. I wish they had showed that at the time.
Triple Crowns winners do not happen every year-- in fact-- not so long ago-- it had been decades between them- so I do not see this affecting racing interest⊠it is just racing. The basis upon which the horse is DQâd-- i.e. the rule-- is not being clearly stated in any of the media so far. Perhaps someone with some racing knowledge could clarify-- but my lunderstanding is that the DQ is due to the severity of what happened-- not whether it happened to Country House or to another horse-- and that it has to be very serious to be a DQ rather than a change to the order of finish. Blood Horse is saying the objection came from Country Houseâs jockey.
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I just wish Bayern had been DQâed in the 2014 Classic. What he did was worse. Not saying this was wrong, but Country House was not winning that race.
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Yes, but on what basis would a law suit be brought? i.e. what cause of action?
For others like me who might need a memory refresher:
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/02/sports/breeders-cup-2014-in-classic-bayern-bumps-the-favorite-shared-belief-then-wins-in-a-wild-finish.html
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Had anyone heard what War of Willâs jockey had to say? MS definitely affected some other horses but not sure if I agree with Country House being declared the winner or MS being taken down to last.
I honestly believe CHâs objection had less to do with it than the stewards inquiry. Isnât that supported by the fact that they completely DQâed him as opposed to placing him only behind the horse filing the objection? I thought I heard Bill Mott said in the post race he didnât think his horse was all that affectedâŠ
Itâs clear Maximum Security was the best horse in the race, but that doesnât mean he can completely cut off the path of the horses behind him. It isnât about only affecting the outcome of the race, itâs impeding the forward course of another horse, and if you canât see that he did that to War of Wills (and consequently the 18 horse), youâre watching a different race.
I feel awful for the connections bc Iâm sure it wasnât intentional and MS was clearly the best, but you donât a free pass on that. Thank goodness WoW held his feet bc that wouldâve been disastrous. And honestly, CH didnât run the winning race but he definitely outran his odds. Iâm sure they wouldâve been tickled with 2nd too.
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Most likely against the stewards and track management and whether or not they properly interpreted and applied the rules when making the call. They would probably claim economic damages ($1.86 million is a hell of an amount even for wealthy race horse owners) and of course Iâm sure they would claim things like emotional distress as well.
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Thank God War of Wills grew a 5th leg and then some.
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All evidence to the contrary âŠ
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Well, if Country Houseâs connections can whine about an incident that did not impede their horse⊠then Maximum Securityâs connections should object to a loud, obnoxious crowd (many of whom were likely inebriated) being allowed in the infield. Everyone knows young (and old) horses can spook. Therefore, it is logical to assume that the potential existed for the crowd to spook a horse. Therefore, it is a safety issue. Tracks claim they want safe racing. But greed drives them to sell tickets to the infield (along with beer sales, betting, etc.). :congratulatory:
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He lived up to his name in that moment, fighting the possible fall.
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Sorry but you missed the trees completely here. Bill Mott saw an opportunity to win a Kentucky Derby and he used his jockey to do it. He admitted his horse was not at all affected. He knew all he had to do was bring up the bogus objection the stewards would take a look at the other horses, and his horse would benefit greatly from the DQ. War of Willâs trainer/jockey were going to let the outcome stand as evidenced by the fact they did not put up an objection. This was some seriously sleazy crap on the part of Mott. I cringed as I listen to him speaking while they were waiting for the results. He was as subtle as a tornado. His horse stood no chance, but he manipulated the rules to get it done.
If the race had been won by a nose, and the affected horse (WOWâs) jockey had asked for the inquiry, I can see todayâs outcome being fair. Instead, a horse who had them all beat long after they all had recovered from the bobble was taken down for no good reason.
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This is bad for race on the perspective of keeping the public interested in the sport. Also people will cry fowl because of betting. How many bet on that horse only to lose that money? Say what you want about racing good or bad, but every first Saturday in May horses get coverage and that brings all horse industries more interest because people are aware of horses.
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If a stewardâs inquiry hadnât been called on what Maximum Security did to the #1 and #18, it would have been a disservice to racing rules. I do agree the objection filed by #20 was pretty cheap. But again, if the objection had stood, as opposed to the stewardâs inquiry, he would have only been placed 2nd, I believe?
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Very well said and what I have been trying to get at. It didnât end up as an accident but it easily could have and it would have been horrible had that happened. Its not about whether Country House was impeded or not, other horses WERE impeded and it could have been a horrible accident. MS was disqualified, he wasnât just moved to second, what he did was so dangerous, he was disqualified. Spook or not, its not ok and there should not be any free passes just because its the Kentucky Derby.
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