Think like a Horse ..Rick Gore ??

[Lynnwood]

I stumbled onto this page via a friends. Does anyone know this person?

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Then no bit thing …really to each their own.

The no helmet part really cheesed me off particularly the post /comments about the little girl riding a tricycle leading a mule.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=736510883033966&set=a.205495232802203.55097.119160441435683&type=1&theater

I don’t care what your training methods are implying that believing a child or anyone for that matter isn’t safer with a helmet on means you have a fear issue is just irresponsible. :no:

Is everything he says off the wall ?? :mad::mad: lay of the anti helmet (especially concerning children) and misogyny.

Maybe there is something I’m not seeing or reading correctly and hes not anti helmet just for the sake of being dismissive.

[ChocoMare]

Do a search on Off Course for his name… read… then run away from Mr Gore :winkgrin:

[ThreeFigs]

Like a broken clock, he’s right twice a day – but he’s a grade-A gold-plated misogynistic jackass. And that’s an insult to jackasses.

[merrygoround]

NP comes in many disciplines it would appear.

[WinsomeTK]

Wow.

Looks like we have a full message board of barn witches. I hope he never injures his over-inflated skull by falling off a stuffed horse that doesn’t rear or buck or spook, just because it doesn’t have an evil bit made out of welded razor blades.

Blech.

[UsualDreamFarm]

Actually, ladies, he has a couple of good points in there. You don’t have to agree with everything a person says or how they say it to get something out of a discussion. I agree, he comes off as really, really sexist, but let’s face it, there are vastly more lady riders than male ones, and some of us are kind of mental. (I can go there… I was one and I worked for one.) He’s a nut, and he’s a flipping bully, but some of what he has to say is pretty valid in some of the messier areas of riding. As for helmets, anybody riding at my barn wears one, but that doesn’t make them immune to injury. Anybody who pays for their own insurance is aware of that, along with their insurance agency. Take him or leave him, but the guy does have some good points in there under all that hot air.

[Caol_Ila]

There are a lot of trainers out there who also make good points, without sounding like douchebags while doing it. I recommend them.

As for his view on helmets, Exhibit A is poor Silva Martin. Horse fell down at a walk. It can happen no matter how nice your horse is or how confident you are.

[Sparrowette]

I think the poor guy must have gone through a REALLY, REALLY, REALLY BAD DIVORCE at some point in his life.

[HicksteadFan]

Check out this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqfb4JyOxok

Kind of long but almost worth the laugh. She has one of those velvet covered helmets with the big “grooved” vents. Says its a regular helmet and they all have those grooves. Has she never watched horse sports on TV or youtube? I’ve never seen a show jumper, dressage rider, eventer… wear one of those. I find that kind of helmet is actually “rare”. What about the other thousand types that are shaped just like your head? :sigh:
I don’t have a problem with people risking comas by riding without a helmet, but don’t put it on youTube. There is a reason why Canadian dressage riders now have to wear helmets. Probably because they’re just not as skilled as this girl though:rolleyes:

[LookmaNohands]

[QUOTE=Sparrowette;7469654]
I think the poor guy must have gone through a REALLY, REALLY, REALLY BAD DIVORCE at some point in his life.[/QUOTE]

If he did, something tells me he deserved it!!

With so many GOOD trainers out there, I don’t know why anyone would waste time on him!!

[Lynnwood]

[QUOTE=UsualDreamFarm;7469604]
Actually, ladies, he has a couple of good points in there. You don’t have to agree with everything a person says or how they say it to get something out of a discussion. I agree, he comes off as really, really sexist, but let’s face it, there are vastly more lady riders than male ones, and some of us are kind of mental. (I can go there… I was one and I worked for one.) He’s a nut, and he’s a flipping bully, but some of what he has to say is pretty valid in some of the messier areas of riding. As for helmets, anybody riding at my barn wears one, but that doesn’t make them immune to injury. Anybody who pays for their own insurance is aware of that, along with their insurance agency. Take him or leave him, but the guy does have some good points in there under all that hot air.[/QUOTE]

Sadly when you come across as a misogynistic douche nozzle no matter what good points about horses you have nobody is going to hear them.

[merrygoround]

Give someone a manure pile and they’ll stand on it and pontificate idiocies.

[txequine]

Just another “trainer” Wannbe

This silly man just scours the internet for information from clinicians and then parrots what he reads. He is no trainer lol. Anything that orginates from him is useless.

Just take a look at how his horses pull on his rope halters and watch him flop around the saddle, all the while cackling like a madman. His feet are shoved forward and his arms are flying up above his gut. It is sad that some people take his riding tips seriously.

He babbles on about how painful all bits and spurs are because he has no earthly idea how to use them cortrectly. He is no horseman, certainly no trainer and he is aware of both of those facts; hence the defensive rudeness.

He only impresses those that are beginner riders and busts on bad examples of horse training/handling in order to make himself look knowledgeable.

Two words come to mind…Pitiful Pretender.

[michaelk]

I think you are spot on txequine. I have seen guys like that in the natural world. They do a couple levels of one of the home study courses and then become expert trainers in about a 2 month period. Which he obviously has done because on his site he quotes Pat Parelli and says it is from his level 2 something or other.

The problem is guys like this never take a horse to a very high level so they don’t really know anything about the correct use of a bit or spurs. I have always started everything in a rope halter but after the first few rides you have to move on.

I’ve seen others like him that have the rope ornament on there saddle but obviously have never worked cow at all, because they see others who are real trainers have them. They have never learned to ride with anything but there hands and there horse over time get like his.

But, I think by far he has the most nerve of any I have seen in his lack of integrity. Because you are right he has just scoured the internet and reworded stuff. The problem is there is only so much you can get from reading and watching from videos and to anyone who has real knowledge you can see that in his self videos.

I guess if you are very new and want to know how to groom your horse you watch him do that.

[sabinomare]

Just saw that this was resurrected from 2014. Txequine, I guess you must not like him if this was your first post, huh?

[QUOTE=HicksteadFan;7470629]
Check out this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqfb4JyOxok

Kind of long but almost worth the laugh. She has one of those velvet covered helmets with the big “grooved” vents. Says its a regular helmet and they all have those grooves. Has she never watched horse sports on TV or youtube? I’ve never seen a show jumper, dressage rider, eventer… wear one of those. I find that kind of helmet is actually “rare”. What about the other thousand types that are shaped just like your head? :sigh:
I don’t have a problem with people risking comas by riding without a helmet, but don’t put it on youTube. There is a reason why Canadian dressage riders now have to wear helmets. Probably because they’re just not as skilled as this girl though:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

This child worries me because she obviously has a very large fan base of young girls that think it’s okay to ride without a helmet. :eek:

[ChasPonyCat]

[QUOTE=HicksteadFan;7470629]
Check out this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqfb4JyOxok

Kind of long but almost worth the laugh. She has one of those velvet covered helmets with the big “grooved” vents. Says its a regular helmet and they all have those grooves. Has she never watched horse sports on TV or youtube? I’ve never seen a show jumper, dressage rider, eventer… wear one of those. I find that kind of helmet is actually “rare”. What about the other thousand types that are shaped just like your head? :sigh:
I don’t have a problem with people risking comas by riding without a helmet, but don’t put it on youTube. There is a reason why Canadian dressage riders now have to wear helmets. Probably because they’re just not as skilled as this girl though:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

So she says several times that she recommends helmets but then makes it very clear that she is against wearing one herself?

[michaelk]

It was my first post too. Because I was working with a rehab and someone asked me if I have heard of him, so I looked him up. And I couldn’t believe the nerve of this guy and what I saw. The a saying in the horse training world. The horse tells the truth. Just look at him on his horses compared to a Richard Winters, or a Buck Brennaman. Like I said I’ve seen many of these home study natural horse heros who turn into over night trainers. They become walkers and trotters and every once in awhile a straight line loper. And they think the answer to everything is riding in a rope halter which is why they never get anywhere else with there horse.

The fact of the matter is it’s not good for a horse to move naturally with a rider on him. That’s why you teach a horse flexion. So he learns to give at the poll softly and opens his back up and drives with his hips instead of pulling with his forehand. And you teach him to give laterally in an arc with his ribs and whole neck, which bending his head around his not it, that’s just bending his head around. You want him to give supplely his whole body and neck in an arc so he is not pounding on his inside shoulder or outside should or torquing his neck. Which can’t get any of this in a rope halter.

And probably what will happen is, sometime he will come read these comments then scour the internet to find info on flexion and start adding that in some how.

[sabinomare]

[QUOTE=michaelk;8261442]
And probably what will happen is, sometime he will come read these comments then scour the internet to find info on flexion and start adding that in some how.[/QUOTE]

I think he has been known to go on other forums and start drama, actually. So you may not be entirely wrong there

[Flash44]

If you are going to spend time online watching videos, stick with Warwick Schiller.