I think you missed the details if you’re referring to my post. I’m not talking about the “how to protect kids” videos or the ones addressing your responsibility to report things. I’m talking about the ones that are completely irrelevant to adult competitors, like “Sports are important to a child’s mental health” and “Here’s how to handle being the responsible adult at an overnight away game.”
There are a LOT of those in the full course. I’m just suggesting that they whittle down the content required of competitors who have no coaching or parental responsibilities.
From the very first Safe Sport course, I have longed for this. Many of the modules even have a “pre-test”… but it doesn’t have an actual purpose aside from introduction to the lesson. It is maddening. Please, give a pre-test, if we get 80% or better let us move on. Don’t force us to mute n click our way through an hour of poorly designed modules. As others have said, much of the course is common sense but perhaps things you don’t think about on a regular basis. Refreshing your awareness to these concerns is a great idea; making it so dull and useless that most of the membership DOES NOT actually watch it seems counterproductive.
I know it would be more expensive to produce, but if they tailored the course to some degree aiming at each specific sport, it might improve participation and retention of the SS training. As is, I think we all agree that 75% of the course is not really applicable to equestrian sport, yet we yawn and click “next” anyway when we remember to check the tab in the background with the module running.
So I guess you’ve never traveled to an”away” show with Junior riders? I have…… many trainers do, along with their AS clients and MAYBE parents. In fact I know Juniors who live with their trainers while in Wellington……
No, I was not specifically addressing you. I had to scroll back to see what you had even written.
I was addressing the fact that multiple people in this conversation said they board in barns with no children, keep horses at home with no children, or don’t frequent shows with children. Some of those people have indicated that SafeSport shouldn’t apply to them. I’m saying that argument doesn’t work.
I feel like this thread has a few different levels of complaint: people who don’t think they should have to do SafeSport period, and people who just think the module needs to be improved. I was addressing the former, not the latter.
No, I haven’t. Ans in 30 years of competing, I’ve never been at a dressage barn that has juniors at away shows. That’s why I think the training should be split up into pieces - some for competitors, and some for trainers, parents, those who are responsible for kids.
Yes, that’s why I said I have no problem with the pieces of the training that are centered around what to watch for, mandatory reporting, etc. The stuff that tells us what to watch out for in those situations.
What I DON’T need to sit through are videos about my responsibility as a coach, parent, or other adult responsible for kids.
Unfortunately, Safesport is much broader than USEF and I don’t believe USEF has any control over what is mandated. Obviously, we can still lobby to the organizing body - but it isn’t them.
When you think about the full spectrum of Olympic/Paralymic sports, I’d guess that equestrian is somewhat unique in terms of how much non-elite competition is run by the governing body, and offered to non-elite-track adults. For example, tons of adults run competitively at a non-elite level, but I suspect very very few attend events governed by USA Track & Field or are members. Maybe I’m totally wrong. I’m just thinking through why it may be the way it is.
Yikes. What a great way to ensure very few people get anything out of it, but instead have it running in the background and skip whatever good info there is.
Even my most tedious and involved work related HR trainings weren’t that long.
Same here, I think! We had a houseguest, so my attempts at finding a moment to work on the SS material was fractured at best. It seemed to take forever over several days.
Just a couple more qualifying scores and I’m done with showing, USEF and USDF.
Because it does repeat, I think if you can ace the pre-test at the beginning, you shouldn’t have to go through the whole session again. If you get all the questions right, you obviously know the material.
I was at the gym one night lifting with my trainer and I really needed water. I said, hey, I need to grab a drink." and He said jokingly, “no water” and I said, “hey, that is a safesport violation!” He proceeded to burst out laughing because weight lifting is an Olympic sport and he has to take Safe Sport too! He knew exactly what I meant because you cannot deny an athlete water.
But hey, if we get booted from the Olympics from this Helgstrand dressage abuse stuff (didn’t that happen to reining???) I guess that means no more safesport!?!
