After reading this thread, I’m going to guess her specialty is diagnosing birth trauma and broken nuchal ligaments?
Well, she bought that little farm in southern Oregon… In my neighborhood essentially. And I can tell you that those prices are going to get her absolutely nowhere locally. So she must be bringing in people from her vast cyber web for Horse training/rehab. We shall see.
In terms of locale, she has certainly zeroed in on one of the more woo-woo focused areas of the planet. Unfortunately, she may not understand that we are also quite underpopulated, particularly in the realm of those interested in sport horses. Which… well, I don’t quite grasp her connection there anyway.
I know a few people who have been drawn into her magical thinking, cult of personality system. I have told them I just don’t respect her emphasis on self Aggrandizing over the horses.
Will Farber also bought a farm a few minutes from me.
UGG.
Prediction: horses come in for the $3K/month “training” are pronounced “unsound” and promoted to the $4k/month “rehab” plan. As they get worse and worse, it is explained as peeling the onion, the horse was repressed and shutdown, now he’s expressing his trauma, etc., etc.
Yes if the soundness or training doesn’t hold over time after they go home, it’s because the client didn’t do their homework enough and hadn’t signed themselves up to learn the nerve release work. Or something.
Please don’t leave the area, people need some sort of sanity in the midst of this bull poop.
I’m in the wrong business. Apparently instead of actually trying to better myself as a rider and trainer, I should just go into woo. sigh
Oh brother…now she’s a trainer too? And apparently one who commands a sky high fee? Isn’t being a nearo-bio-physio-witchcraft-nucial ligament-rehabilitation engineer enough of a title for her? (not going back 2000 posts to find what she called herself sometime back) This is absolute madness. At least before, she was able to keep the wool over peoples’ eyes by hiding behind her keyboard reinventing and stealing other trainers long standing methods. If people bring her actual horses, she’ll have to produce a tangible product. Maybe this will finally be where the wheels start to fall off.
To date, I don’t think I’ve ever seen video of her actually riding a horse. Sitting on one bareback in a dress barefoot does not make one a trainer.
Can you imagine taking your horse for training (for sport horses) somewhere for somebody that refuses to ever wear helmet? At the tune of $3 to $4k.
Yep, this was my first thought. There will not be a singular horse that comes in that isn’t “lame” and she forces the owner to upgrade to the more expensive option. $4k!!! Is she out of her mind, honestly. Even the top barns in my area (granted, I only look at event barns, I’m sure H/J is a bit pricier) are about $2k (give or take) for full board and training. And, as someone in California, I thought I was in an expensive area!
I saw on IG the other day someone post about price transparency and at, what I would call a premier facility with 9 arenas, multiple trainers (like, actual trainers that compete and produce horses), an XC course, a facility that hosts multiple H/J A shows throughout the year as well as FEI events … she paid $6k for full board and training on 2 horses.
Unfortunately, this kind of thing isn’t that unusual – I had a young tb, had him in training for six months, then went to the “best” local trainer to keep going and start serious under saddle work – was supposed to get this, take him out to shows etc. to get him used to things, some trails, written reports, and so on. Price was a lot at the time and compared to other local options. Immediately I’m told he has something wrong with his shoulder (no, he didn’t), needed a lot of prep ground work and no riding (had been riding him myself the prior few months), I was supposed to leave him alone and not mess up his new learning, and never ride him, much less think of cantering ever. Then it was that he had a hormone imbalance (he didn’t, I had bloodwork done) and needed drugs to make him more trainable. He was a fine, nice, smart horse! And I knew it. Then I was booted. Started with a new trainer and within a couple of weeks we were both riding him, no issues, and did great until that person moved away. I know another person who took their horse to a new trainer and soon was told the horse was not good enough, needed to be sold and replaced with one the trainer chose. That owner was heartbroken, and fortunately stood up to the nonsense and did not sell a horse they loved dearly. So the BS is more common than it should be. Oh and my last trainer (as in last I would ever pay or trust) turned out to abuse client horses when they thought no one was looking. I saw this and reported it. Glad to be on my own, and no regrets about that decision. Still have my boy, and still really enjoy working with him, playing, and just really everything is great! It was a long learning curve though, to see the BS and just walk away even if money was on the table. It’s just money, the horse is far more important than that.
The property is 5 acres with 25 stalls. Can we bet on her working student/exploitation program? She doesn’t have the look of someone accustomed to blue collar work or farm maintenance. I was surprised to see the property solely in her name as well.
She’s made bank and obviously has quite the best egg for a down payment, but the good old joke of “If you want to make a million dollars in horses, start with two million” comes to mind.
5 acres isn’t much room for turnout. All the better for ensuring your horses are never sound enough for normal work and need to be in a perpetual “rehab program.”
Well, aren’t you lucky.
I have a horse diagnosed with ECVM via x-ray. The only reason we went looking down that rabbit hole is because an animal communicator said “pain in right lower neck”.
Unilateral malformation on the right hand side. Most likely malformed first rib.
She is now a perfectly normal-looking and completely useless animal. Huzzah!
Chiming in again nearly a year after discovering this thread, and I’m glad to see it’s still active.
I really, really like to give people the benefit of the doubt before making a judgement call. However, after tracking numerous inconsistencies in CLL’s narrative, as well as being privy to multiple situations where her private behaviour has significantly deviated from her public image, the situation has become much more clear. This person is not who they say they are. This person is profoundly unwell and has the capacity to cause harm to others.
As an anonymous internet commenter, I know this will - and should - be taken with a grain of salt. But I’m being deliberately vague, as I’m not sure what benefit specific details would bring to the table at this point.
Instead, I would advise any US residents who have been negatively impacted by CLL to consult with their state Consumer Protection office. I (still) have no dog in this fight, but CP was extremely helpful for me in resolving an issue I had with another equine professional that was committing unfair business practices.
So, who’s the “well known physiotherapist who teaches equine biomechanics” she’s calling out in her latest social media post for riding with a “cranked” noseband and [gasp] a whip!!!?
She then goes on to seemingly say it’s wrong to ride any horse at all until it’s learned to properly “carry its spine in neutral” or some such nonsensical phrase that I’m guess means it has done her special program.
A local friend was passing this around too. I wondered myself.
Perhaps she should show some video of her, actually riding horses and showing proof of her majikal ways. There’s certainly no sort of competition record and won’t be.
There have been snippets here and there of her riding, including a short video she posted a few months ago of her on her young horse. Very intermediate-level, unimpressive riding; In the young horse vid she’s quite behind the motion, but is otherwise harmless and ineffective-looking. I would not rush out to mortgage my house so that my horse could be in training with her.
She’s a fraud in every way.