Tips for pulling the BIg A$$ Trailer

I bought a brand new truck for this trailer. It is a GMC Sierra 2500 3/4 ton extended cab with the regular bed–plenty of clearance for the back windows. I can make a pretty tight turn with it without worrying about the cab. The annoying thing was I specifically ordered this truck for towing–the dealer knew it because I was insistent about the tow package, etc. It has a cute program that tests all your lights for you and a ridiculous multipart tailgate. GMC’s fail is that they forgot to install a backup camera on the cab for the goose!!! I bought a hookup aid (it’s a tube that you put onto the receiver ball and it falls over when the hitch is in the right spot) and is nearly flawless. I am not worried about hooking up. I do find the mirrors on the truck hard to get used to–my last truck was 20 years old when I sold it and had normal wide truck mirrors, not the split screen thing–but now I like them. I still have to get out and check all the time. Supposedly, GMC has a camera package where you can see all around and behind your trailer, however, it is not part of their normal tow package. (I have an enormous beef with GMC about this because if you are paying what new trucks cost these days, you should get the bells and whistles!!!)

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THere is some good advice about turning and backing. I watched some YouTubes on how to drive an RV trailer and back it into a parking spot and I think they were saying what you just said about backing, but not in a way I was comprehending. Thanks.

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@Cowgirl, you can do this! Just take your time, breathe and relax. I would do what @Djones suggested- haul that sucker around and practice, practice, practice.

When I learned to pull my bumper pull, I would go to a local high school parking lot very early on a Sunday morning. I was the only vehicles there.

I honestly would not know what to do with cameras, as I have never had them. I do occasionally use a stick on a magnet to hook up- especially if my husband is present and annoying me. :grin: It shuts him up.

@4horses, a gooseneck is really not that bad at all. I have always found them to be more stable than a bumper pull, and the amount of space is awesome. I am apparently a hoarder, and I don’t know it. I can put an entire household into a not huge living quarters, and you would never know it! As a trail rider and horse camper, I like to travel with all the comforts of home! :joy:

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This. I’ve heard the advice to leave that sucker hooked up and drive it EVERYWHERE for a month. Maybe not to work, but to the grocery store and the feed store and the biscuit shop - everywhere you can fit the trailer, you take the rig. Your diesel station will love you, but you’ll get really used to driving and parking.

I also want to encourage you to forget everything you think you know about pulling the trailer from your BP days - and if you know someone who is really good at driving a GN, ride shotgun with them a few times to get the “feel”.

You can do this. Growing up, it was the trainer’s 16 yo daughter that drove the semi rig like she was born in it - but there were a few brand new fence posts and fenders to attest to the learning curve :wink:. You can totally do this if you just take a huge breath and practice!

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It will get better. I think the first show I went to there was actually a guy directing parking and he told me to “just back in over there” and I about died. Last week I went to a clinic that should have had someone directing parking because everyone was parked all over the place and I could not swing around like I hoped, so I had to back up to make it work and I was like, yep, I got this :smiley:

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I found this topic on an old forum (with which I was previously unfamiliar). Posting it here because the replies describe, in several different ways, what’s needed to successfully back a GN . Perhaps one of the descriptions will resonate with the OP:

https://www.horseforum.com/threads/need-tips-for-backing-up-a-long-gooseneck-trailer.117264/

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The various packages are confusing AF. Your dealer should have walked you through what is in each of them since they vary so much based on the trim level (SLE/SLT/Denali/etc.).

The bed view camera and accessory trailer camera port aren’t in the trailering packages - I believe they are part of a Safety package, and only available with certain truck trim levels.

Last fall we got a new to us 2020 GMC Denali 1 ton. It’s got the bed view camera and it’s amazing. I would also love to order the cable for the accessory trailer camera so I can see behind the trailer, but it will involve some re-wiring of the port since it’s on the bumper so doesn’t work well for GN trailers (as well as a $$$ cable).

I’m learning how to navigate pulling our GN (3 horse w/11 ft shortwall LQ). As others have said it’s all about thinking “wide” turns! I’m finally figuring out a decent technique for roundabouts. :laughing: I know to keep the truck further left when entering and then once I get in to keep the truck well to the right.

Something I really didn’t have to do with my BP is watch the trailer wheels with the pavement lines and use that as a guide for how long to maintain a turn before straightening out.

I haven’t had to do much backing with it yet, but the little that I have done is actually easier because you can really swing the truck around. You can get it at angles that would jackknife a BP. Thankfully our GN has a tapered nose so no worries about punching out the truck back window. :joy:

Good luck and stick with it, you can do it!!!

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I went from a 2 horse bumper pull that I towed with a Sequoia to a 2+1 and a long bed F250. That thing is like driving a train! I just kept going to abandoned parking lots and practicing. Now I have driven it 18 hours and back to Florida twice and it’s second nature. You can do it, just keep trying

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You truly have to let go of everything you know about pulling a BP and learn how to pull a GN.

The longer the trailer, the longer it takes for the butt of the trailer to respond when backing and turning while backing.

Driving forward, fully accept that wherever your truck’s inside front tire is on the curve in a turn, that is where your trailer’s inside tire is headed directly.

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Both situations sound like turned too soon at the intersection and should have driven straight another 6-8’ or so, and THEN turn hard to enter the other road.

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Yeah, exactly. No one told me. LOL.

When I took the trailer to have the fender replaced, I had to drive through a decent sized town and TWO roundabouts. Wish I had bought adult diapers for the trip! I did get through it, even through Outlet Mall traffic! It’s not as nerve wracking as when horses are in it though.

The camera packages and other packages ARE confusing AF!!! When I ordered this, it was a special order because I did NOT want another diesel truck since I bought this thing ONLY to haul with. This one is the first year they had gas trucks with Allison transmission. I am glad I bought a gas truck as the maintenance will be much easier and I won’t need to constantly trickle charge in the winter (it lives in an overhang off my barn). It still cost a ridiculous amount of money. A back up camera for the goose (I have one for the trailer ball) would have been very nice. There is already a recall on the stupid tailgate. I had to buy a special ball hitch that can be stored behind the hitch because of the stupid tailgate that will smash into a regular ball if you drop it for the step up while the hitch is on. I have left the trailer hooked up. Guess I will drive around this weekend. I did do a lot of driving around my neighborhood, but not much driving through traffic and into parking lots.

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Lemme guess - you have a B&W Tow & Stow hitch too? LOL

Yeah that little design flaw is irritating - how did they not actually think about it especially with the HD trucks since towing is one of the main reasons you’d get one?!

I must say though that my knees/back love the tailgate.

Prior to getting this truck the poor man’s bed cam hack is to put your phone/iPad on the back seat in video mode pointed at the hitch. I did that with my old truck and it worked pretty well!

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Yep, the B & W tow and stow hitch. Cost a fortune. I don’t need a camera with this thing: Bing Videos
It works a charm. Perfect alignment every time. I still wish they had a hitching camera on the truck. It’s ridiculous to market a truck that comes ready with a goose/5th wheel package and not include that.

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Never fear! This can be installed after market.

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No I did not. There s absolutely a difference in the turning radius on a 4WD in 2WD mode and a 2WD truck, especially a very large or heavy duty. It has to do with the increased complexity of the front end components, many 4WD vehicles have stops in the steering rack and a 2WD has no powertrain in the front end. This isn’t even a slightly controversial opinion, you can ask any truck manufacturer and they will tell you the same. On a small modern vehicle you might not notice it but at work we had a full fleet of trucks, including many large trucks and some with “real” 4WD (locking hubs) and it was incredibly noticeable when you switched back and forth on a daily basis. I’m shocked so many people have never noticed.

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What you described literally only applies when the truck is actually IN 4wd, and it has to do with the lack of center differential, preventing the tires from spinning at different speeds.

As far as the difference with 4WD disengaged, you’re literally talking a matter of a foot at max. There is no appreciable difference.

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The turning radius on my 2015 heavy duty Ford 2500 is way better than my Honda CRV ever was😀. The thing drives like a sports car.

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No it literally doesn’t? This isn’t an opinion, like I said: it’s a fact. Google it. The 4WD components are still there when you are in 2WD. It often catches people off guard when they switch and are backing up and turning. And a foot is about what the OP is hitting stuff by.