So, many of you have read my posts about my problems with my new (not so much now) trainer. Pushy for extra lessons, and when I decline there has been alot of comment about my committment, etc. Well, she sells Amway. She is pushing everyone in the area right now-she must be in a cash crunch. I have had several calls from new students of hers wanting to know if she does this to everyone. The hard thing is, when you decline an extra lesson or show, she asks why, when you say it’s financial, she offers this up again to ‘help you live your dreams’. If you try not to give reason (which I don’t think she needs) she pushes you to ‘look inside yourself and see if you are truly committed to your horse’. I have said no, 5 times, to the Amway, in every way I know how. Nothing has changed. I was totally ready to switch trainers and took what I thought would be my last lesson last week and it was so damn good, I can’t say anything to her. HELP!!!
Run. Away. Quickly!
The heck with that last lesson; no one needs that kind of aggravation. Get out while the getting is good, IMO.
Eileen
Gosh, She sounds just like my “pushy trainer” thread. How obnoxious. I also had a “Mary Kay” lady bugging me nonstop. Maybe it’s just me but I just can’t stand that New Yawk type salesmanship. I know times are tough but, geez, have some class.
I think you’ve got to have the “this is making me very uncomfortable” conversation. (Which in itself is uncomfortable.)
But you have to be prepared for the fact that it may be the last conversation you have with her… or maybe not.
Good Lord, what is she thinking?
We theoretically do this for fun (hah!) and I don’t get the impression that for you at the moment the fun is outweighing the stress of dealing with this person.
Oh, is she trying to get you to sell amway too? Suddenly the whole thing makes sense. Amway is like a cross between a cult and an MLM.
I have several friends in buying clubs like amway and amway, and it’s just miserable - it’s endless. they’re selling constantly, and i get the feeling they view me as one large walking checkbook and nothing more. it’s disgusting. be glad she’s selling amway - there are worse things :lol:
and if your lessons are that good, me, i’d put up with it. i’ve put up with far, far worse. :winkgrin:
Put on your big girl face, and smile and say, Sorry I can’t do that.
Over the years I have worked with many different instructors. sometimes the change was made because of moves, sometimes because of dissatisfaction. I’ve always tried to maintain a pleasant relationship with them later.
Sometimes you just need to move on. :yes:
amway “No thank you,” then turn back to what you were doing and get back to doing it.
extra lessons, shows: No thank you. The work we are doing is meeting my current goals. It makes me uncomfortable to continually discuss extras. My current lesson and schooling schedule is meeting my needs and my horse’s needs. I will let you know when my goals change. If you can’t respect my schedule I will need to change trainers. Thanks for understanding. walk away - no discussion.
Next time trainer approaches you with extras - stop. Cancel.
If your trainer is really big into the “Amway dreams” right now, she won’t stop asking. It is almost like brainwashing…believe me, I know from experience. It is insane, and when my husband and I did it in the late 90’s we actually never made anything, we LOST money. The upper level people make money on the training materials. The lower levels do not make money on selling products.
I am in a network marketing biz, but if someone says ‘no’ then I move on and don’t ask again. Actually, I’d rather have someone on my ‘team’ that actually wants to do this type of business. It’s people like that, that make all the MLM people look like cults.
It’s a business, some people just go a little overboard with it.
Next time, tell her if she asks again, you’ll find someone else!
Just tell her that if you buy Amway stuff, you won’t be able to afford lessons
EXACTLY! Do it today you will be doing her a favor!!!
Some MLMs push the “dream” harder than others, and I think it does become like a cult. And the lower levels not making money is exactly why MLMs in general have a bad name!
One time, I remember we had some person randomly call us who took our phone number off of an open house sign-in sheet, just to ask us whether we would like to be rich. Well, yeah, but I’m smart enough to know that you’re not likely to make that happen, bye!
Hay
All I can say is UGH! Between Amway, Mary Kay and Avon…one great big UGH.
[QUOTE=ChristieNCritters;3229262]
If your trainer is really big into the “Amway dreams” right now, she won’t stop asking. It is almost like brainwashing…believe me, I know from experience. It is insane, and when my husband and I did it in the late 90’s we actually never made anything, we LOST money. The upper level people make money on the training materials. The lower levels do not make money on selling products.[/QUOTE]
Two words: Pyramid scheme.
Yup, run far far away. More realistically, IGNORE. Just take your lessons and continue saying no.
Run!
Those would have to be awfully good lessons to make it worthwhile…
I think I would say…“I am really really not interested. Really. Let’s not discuss Amway anymore, ok?” And if that doesn’t make the point…I would move on.
I got a pm about a VERY well known trainer and judge in So.CAl. that pushes some new beauty product and creams on her clients. OYyVayy. I guess the economy is worse than I thought!
I once worked for a BO/trainer/coach/judge who sells Nikken.
The bottom line is, Nikken was her business and horses were not. Everything that happened in the barn revolved around Nikken… who got the best lesson times, who got more lessons, who got better lessons, whose horses/which clinets were treated better…
And God forbid you fall off her Nikken wagon or didn’t meet her Nikken marketing goals (in purchasiing or selling if you were a seller), or you were out of her good book.
Nasty piece of work, nasty. She left me alone most of the time b/c she needed me to bring her horse business back and build it, but once that was done she had no further use for me. Her head was totally wrapped around the pyramid scheme.
Well, back in the 80’s or so I think my dad did it, or maybe we just bought some stuff. I remember one of the biodegradable soaps did a bang up job of cleaning tack and the horse and so on… Really! You are getting veerrry sllleeeeppy…
