Trapping a possum

[QUOTE=Squashnmoon;7269151]
I understand the concern about EPM and agree that they shouldn’t be around horses, but opossums are not “nasty” or “vermin” or “foul”. They’re gentle, non-aggressive marsupials that perform important scavenging duties for the environment. Why all the hate for such a little thing? Because you think they’re ugly?[/QUOTE]

Get one cornered and see how gentle and “non-aggressive” they are. They eat road kill and have a really nasty bite, if they get into a fight with your dog you will be really sorry.

They carry Epm disease and if the creatures defecate in the horses water or food it can kill them.

this whole conversation scares me…I was out on the porch in the dark and I believe? it was a possum waddling by…but I’m not sure.
I don’t want to shoot anything, but its NOT because I have some bleeding heart about it. I just don’t want to do it. If I could set a trap, have someone ELSE come and do the deed, fine. I have no bleeding heart for vermin. I vote we all trap and drive said vermin to the properties that say ‘nooooo…don’t shoot them!’…problems solved and everyone happy.

[QUOTE=ayrabz;7272012]
this whole conversation scares me…I was out on the porch in the dark and I believe? it was a possum waddling by…but I’m not sure.
I don’t want to shoot anything, but its NOT because I have some bleeding heart about it. I just don’t want to do it. If I could set a trap, have someone ELSE come and do the deed, fine. I have no bleeding heart for vermin. I vote we all trap and drive said vermin to the properties that say ‘nooooo…don’t shoot them!’…problems solved and everyone happy.[/QUOTE]

Can we ship them via FedEx?

best bait- cat food, that’s a no brainer.

Trap, pick up cage with gloves, transport to safe area and shoot the thing in the trap, either right between the eyes or at the base of the skull. Dump out of trap in remote area or manure pile, depending on time of year, temperature and individual squeamishness.

I’m sure that while Possum’s may be one of God’s creatures and entitled to live undisturbed in it’s wild natural state, if he’s getting that comfy he needs to go.

Yesterday I had some workers here and their dog chased a young deer that was in one of my pastures. It is about 3 acres and is fenced with pipe and 2x4 wire mesh fencing. I have cut some wildlife openings for wildlife to pass through, but the dog apparently chased the deer into a corner and the deer smashed its jaw. My own dogs in their pen were barking, so all I saw when I got outside to see what the commotion was, was a paniced bloody deer with a hanging jaw, desparately trying to get out of the fence. It was too young to jump it. I walked inside for the .22 and handed it to the worker who claimed to be the best shot. He put it down fairly well. RIP poor little deer. That deer suffered and died because humans have brought their dogs and their fences into its territory.

On my piece of land, I try to do the best I can to preserve nature. I have had possum before that wanted into my garbage. I did two things. I made my garbage more secure, and I trapped and located the possum to a local creek where there a no horse farms nearby. Problem solved, no more possum. I bet just securing the garbage would have been sufficient because no more have showed up.

People bring their cats, their chickens, their garbage, their loose horse feed to the countryside, and then want to exercise their dominion over nature. It does not take that much to respect wildlife. Possum eat mice and rats, did you know that? I do not have barn cats, and because of that, my place abounds in birds, rabbits, other small mammals, and everything else that cats kill. I do not have mice or rats because I let my snakes thrive.

I wish people would try to come up with a better solution than killing things. Cover your feed and hay. Cover your trash. Do you really need cats? Their catfood is like sending out an invitation to possum and coons. So are your chickens and their eggs. Keep your pastures mowed so possum don’t go in there. If you have killed coyote, you have killed the possum’s predators.

I would hope that people are not killing wildlife simply because it is a convenient solution for them. Perhaps with a little effort, there is a better way? I am not religious in the dogmatic sense, but I think killing creatures because of who they are is bad for the soul/spirit. Go ahead, make fun if you want, but everything you do becomes part of you.

ETA, yes I have horses, and here in Texas, the last time I tested, I was told all horses will tend to test positive for EPM. I make sure they have the best immune systems they can. They are constantly monitored for any and all ills and injuries. Also, if there were some kind of possum explosion or some kind of EPM epidemic, I would change my tune, but that is neither of those scenarios is the case.

Tothenines
this animal carries a disease that cripples and kills our horses. I’m assuming? you’re on this board because you also have horses? Its sort of what this group is created for.
I don’t think ANYONE prefers killing something. I rescued ONE barn cat. It was starving and crying in the brush here on our property barely old enough for its eyes to be opened. The shelter did not believe it made it. I felt helping THAT creature to live was a good effort, since SHE found me.
I feed that little one 1/4 scoop of dry food twice a day and keep her inside the barn , so there is nothing left out. not one kernel. She’s so tiny our local hawk would carry her off in a nano second, so I try very hard to watch out for her long enough for her to grow to a better size and also a bit more worldly wisdom…but nature is what nature is.

No one would condone killing a possum without trying to do all the right things to discourage them, I’m sure. But personally, without one DROP of garbage or feed or catfood here/exposed/not contained…I’ve seen two possums now in the past 2 months, ambling around the property after dark. I’m not chancing my horses because I’m not willing to admit they are a true health threat to them and that the world isn’t rainbows and unicorns.

Thank you, ToTheNines. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
You have a sister on a farm in Va.

Well I think it’s hilarious and ironic that hunters that put a “trophy on the wall” (and the meat in the freezer and tan the hide) are considered blood thirsty morons but if some critter threatens the Horsy-poo it must be eradicated! It’s all the same to the dead animals, isn’t it?

tothenines, deer don’t have “territory”. You can take a deer and move it 200 miles away and it doesn’t care, picks up where it left off. And like coyotes and skunks and possums and coons and all kinds of animals, if humans never ever built another house or another “farm” or another anything, the animals would creep into the human space b/c that’s where the good eating is.

We hunt as much as we can for food and if we get a nice set of horns or a good bear for a rug, we’ll use that part of the animal too. No hunter I know loves to kill and roll around in the blood but we see a purpose to it; just like anyone that wants to kill a possum or a mouse in their feed room or kitchen. In all the years I’ve had chickens and cats and ranches and farms I’ve killed exactly ONE varmit-a skunk. And I felt bad about it, too. The cats have killed a lot of gophers and mice but that skunk was mine alone.

It’s a rough world out there, those animals have no problem killing chickens or cats or doing what it takes but humans have the misfortune of being able to think too much. You have to do what is right for yourself but for pete’s sakes, know where “you” ends and “someone else” starts.

I just had to react to the slam against hunters back there, don’t even remember who said it. But in the scheme of things, I think killing a possum b/c it’s “icky” and “might give a disease to the horse” is hardly on higher ground than feeding the family.

Ah, trubandloki, you’re the anti-hunter. Thanks a lot.

Be aware that raccoons, armadillos, skunks, and even domestic cats have a role in EPM transmission.

the above can all serve as intermediate hosts.

http://www.thehorse.com/articles/12708/raccoon-another-epm-natural-intermediate-host

http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/livestock/horses/facts/info-epm.htm

Thinking of the poor deer with its smashed jaw. There was a doe and her twin newborn spotted fawns this spring - she crossed the road, and the ditch and jumped the fence, her one offspring got through, but the other one couldn’t, it got in a panic and a car hit it. So pitiful. It was so tiny.

There are so many deer in the woods now that it makes traveling to roads after dark extremely hazardous…for the deer and the person driving a car. Should we abolish cars too? Do you think that we should just not drive after dark on our rural roads? We have to share this planet with all it’s creatures that doesn’t mean that I can’t have a cat, because the cat food might attract an unwanted guest. It also doesn’t mean that I shouldn’t keep chickens because the fox or the hawk will want them too. If the fox gets too comfy hunting chickens on my property instead of the very abundant squirrels, he goes away. If I spot a possum, he will also go away. I have the right to protect my property. People have lived on this 5 acre property for a couple of hundred years…the wildlife can have all the rest of the land…this is mine.

[QUOTE=ayrabz;7272012]
this whole conversation scares me…I was out on the porch in the dark and I believe? it was a possum waddling by…but I’m not sure.
I don’t want to shoot anything, but its NOT because I have some bleeding heart about it. I just don’t want to do it. If I could set a trap, have someone ELSE come and do the deed, fine. I have no bleeding heart for vermin. I vote we all trap and drive said vermin to the properties that say ‘nooooo…don’t shoot them!’…problems solved and everyone happy.[/QUOTE]

Watch a horse get EPM. I think you will change your tune. To see a totally healthy horse go - that way - it is not a pretty sight.

These EPM makers appear to be docile, they are ANYthing but. Caution. Until you see them in a cage, their ears go RED, and their nasty thin pointy teeth literally drip with saliva. Wow and they poop in the cage, and they smell - ick.

Don’t shoot out in the dark unless you are close to the EMP maker. You may shoot your horse or propane tank or truck or ??

I solved my problem. For right now,the cats are locked in the garage until they finish dinner. Microchip activated cat door on the way.

I have nothing out in the barn to attract any critter and we have plenty of coyotes. I’m sure once Mr. Possum figures out there’s nothing to eat he will go looking for greener pastures.

Excellent LauraKY, I think this type of mindfulness is what us wildlife conservationists are asking for! Not so much what you have a “right to do” but what makes you feel right about doing it.

[QUOTE=ToTheNines;7272142]
Yesterday I had some workers here and their dog chased a young deer that was in one of my pastures. It is about 3 acres and is fenced with pipe and 2x4 wire mesh fencing. I have cut some wildlife openings for wildlife to pass through, but the dog apparently chased the deer into a corner and the deer smashed its jaw. My own dogs in their pen were barking, so all I saw when I got outside to see what the commotion was, was a paniced bloody deer with a hanging jaw, desparately trying to get out of the fence. It was too young to jump it. I walked inside for the .22 and handed it to the worker who claimed to be the best shot. He put it down fairly well. RIP poor little deer. That deer suffered and died because humans have brought their dogs and their fences into its territory.

On my piece of land, I try to do the best I can to preserve nature. I have had possum before that wanted into my garbage. I did two things. I made my garbage more secure, and I trapped and located the possum to a local creek where there a no horse farms nearby. Problem solved, no more possum. I bet just securing the garbage would have been sufficient because no more have showed up.

People bring their cats, their chickens, their garbage, their loose horse feed to the countryside, and then want to exercise their dominion over nature. It does not take that much to respect wildlife. Possum eat mice and rats, did you know that? I do not have barn cats, and because of that, my place abounds in birds, rabbits, other small mammals, and everything else that cats kill. I do not have mice or rats because I let my snakes thrive.

I wish people would try to come up with a better solution than killing things. Cover your feed and hay. Cover your trash. Do you really need cats? Their catfood is like sending out an invitation to possum and coons. So are your chickens and their eggs. Keep your pastures mowed so possum don’t go in there. If you have killed coyote, you have killed the possum’s predators.

I would hope that people are not killing wildlife simply because it is a convenient solution for them. Perhaps with a little effort, there is a better way? I am not religious in the dogmatic sense, but I think killing creatures because of who they are is bad for the soul/spirit. Go ahead, make fun if you want, but everything you do becomes part of you.

ETA, yes I have horses, and here in Texas, the last time I tested, I was told all horses will tend to test positive for EPM. I make sure they have the best immune systems they can. They are constantly monitored for any and all ills and injuries. Also, if there were some kind of possum explosion or some kind of EPM epidemic, I would change my tune, but that is neither of those scenarios is the case.[/QUOTE]

Well, I am guessing that you (being the nasty person that brought the fence into the deer’s territory), will gladly take it down now…

Calamber, this does not have to be polarizing. Or more simply, it is not one team versus the other. It is about mindfulness, and balancing opposing interests.

In case you did not read that part, I have cut wildlife holes in my fence. The deer did not get to one of the openings because the workers’ dog was chasing it, and the propane delivery truck was pulling in next to the closest one. It was a sad accident. I cutting some more holes as soon as weather permits.

A mark of intelligence is how one deals with opposing thoughts.

[QUOTE=Calamber;7270993]
Get one cornered and see how gentle and “non-aggressive” they are. They eat road kill and have a really nasty bite, if they get into a fight with your dog you will be really sorry.[/QUOTE]

Any animal (or person for that matter) cornered is going to fight, isn’t it? Wouldn’t you? My dogs have harassed opossums a few times and what happens is the possum plays dead (very convincingly) and the dogs get confused and leave it alone. My point was not that people shouldn’t do anything about them in the barn but that the vitriol directed towards them was unwarranted. That’s all. I figured we were all animal lovers here but some in this thread prove otherwise.

Aafter a while a reader of these threads recognizes posters of like mindedness, or otherwise. Just consider the source of many of the posts.

Ok so we moved into our home last year… previous remnant was dirty made a big rat problem and now they both gone possums have moved in…
Ok we said trap and remove… set trap caught one… next night caught another… next night another and another omg another… am fed up with these things btw they stink lol… so far not counting the pregnant one we caught or thereally young ones we are now at possum 24… Also caught 14 ferral cats an armadillo and 3 birds and 1 rat… cant believe they still keep comming every few nights.

The neibours dogs are not barking any where near as much as they were… Also tried to convince people not to leave cat food out… some listen some ignore… ain’t my problem I just buy more food… it’s like omg don’t they realize it’s not their cat eating a whole bag offood every night? Some people don’t get it…

anyways best bait is cat food but pretty much anything you have will do… even caught several without any bait… I’ve put the trap… yes I only have 1. Trap, in many places… got them out from under my house by putting it just underneath the skirting by an entry hole, once they were gone seal up skirting… place trap on corner of house… bait no bait… I convinced they just wonder into it.

here animal control will take and relocate them but honestly I don’t trust them… if you take them yourself take them at least 5 miles away away from the town city to make sure they don’t come back… just cant believe we have caught so many in such a small lot so fast… 1/2 acre 8 months in 1 trap…

honestly how so many? Are other people dumping them here? Are they being hearded out from somewhere else, being attracted to the idiots that think their dogs will keep them away and not eat their food… and for that matter is every single neibours I have honestly that dumb? Seriously?

anyway I’ve spent so much time and gas money driving these things away… I know I’m happy when I catch another it’s just omg honey… another possum… I don’t want to see any more… so fed up I shud get paid for this.