Well wraper I certainly hope you didn’t let the extremely incorrect, misinformed opinions of a few turn you off to treeless.
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I’m a “big girl” working with treeless and part-treed saddles.
I started after pregnancy with an old Ansur, which I loved for a number of reasons. It fit my horse well and I really felt like an effective rider…that is, until the morning I woke up and couldn’t walk because my back and hips were in agony! Apparently I am not the first person to have this happen, either. Trainer felt it was saddle-related, so switched me to her part-treed Fhoenix saddle. There’s a bit more substance to this (and a LOT of foam!) which took some getting used to, but I did end up buying the saddle off of my trainer because it is working for me.
I’m not a screaming, rabid convert but the saddle does fit well and my horse has no complaints. 
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[QUOTE=Auventera Two;5876406]
Well wraper I certainly hope you didn’t let the extremely incorrect, misinformed opinions of a few turn you off to treeless.[/QUOTE]
From what she wrote she made an intelligent decision to make some personal changes and then reconsider her options. Sounds like a good plan to me.
G.
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I have an older Ansur dressage saddle – pre-gullet. I would love to have one of the newer ones but it’s not a priority right now & not in the budget.
Is there a pad that I could use with it that effectively creates a gullet? I use this saddle for ring riding, not out on the trail – for that I use either a Tucker trail saddle or a heavier but slightly better fitting “About the Horse” trail saddle.
As much as I like my Ansur & feel secure in it, I would be happier if there were a gullet, so I’d love ideas if such a thing is possible short of replacing the saddle![/QUOTE]
That’s why a pad designed for treeless saddles is recommended. Skito makes pads that are designed for use with treeless saddles. http://carouseltights.com/products.htm
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Many thanks for the tip, PRS. I have some shims from Ansur for it, but when I stopped using them because my Centered Riding clinician said they were making my saddle tilt upward in front, my horse ended up with dry spots to either side of her spine thanks to too much pressure from the stirrups and/or the billets. Putting the shims back in helped that. But it made me realize just how much pressure the design of this otherwise wonderful saddle was putting on those areas of my mare’s back. :no:
Im looking into the black forest treeless saddles. My 1st choice was the ponderosa town ands country (i ride western and do trail riding). But now im thinking the shasta would be a better choice for me… but i’m stuck. I have spoke to Vic the guy that owns it and he suggested I need a 9in shim as well as the suspension pad because my gelding has a lower back he is mutton withered and short backed and very round I’m a lightweight Rider 130 lb and have good balance and just curious what everybody’s thoughts are my one concern would be the Stirrup placement and does it have a good twist. . I previously have owned a hilason treeless for 10 years which i do not recommend (knowing what i know now). Aint above would be greatly appreciated. Ive done a lot of research but still can’t quite decide
You may get more replies if you start a new thread with your question in the title than by just adding on to an 8 year old discussion, as you have done here.
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I love my Bob Marshall SS endurance model. I use Skito pads with it,( costly) but they make a difference. You must have a good sense of balance if riding treeless. My guy has no withers, and I have to use a good quality neoprene girth to keep it in place, but otherwise, I enjoy the saddle. It is not my only saddle, so I don’t use it exclusively. My massage therapist has told me none of the saddles are bothering my horse’s back, so I am happy.
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