Trying to find US show record: horse imported from Germany

OP didn’t you hit your head and get a concussion? You might not be thinking extra clearly/unemotionally right now and all this screen time might not be the best for your health. Maybe taking a deep breath and a little break from engaging about this online/through text might be good for you. brain injuries are weird things. You can think you’re ok… and be… totally not ok. I don’t know you from Adam but maybe just a few days to rest and recharge NOT thinking about this horse purchase gone wrong might help you heal.

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It’s time for you to move on from lecturing me here, ironically. Not sure what you’re trying to accomplish but it’s not working and your approach is awful here. Whether or not my one text was long or short is irrelevant. You calling me sus when I was venting my concerns and frustration, also having conversations in a forum is just uncalled for. Just because you would choose to block a seller after a negative experience does not mean all others would, especially when the seller is continuing to make contact.

There are a lot of people commenting here and I’m free to say what I wish just as you are. This isn’t about me moving on, this is a forum for discussion. I haven’t said anything else to the seller and let it be when she stopped responding after I responded to her last text. My number one concern here since this happened is another prospective buyer’s safety.

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I’m providing my suggestion and saying what I wish - move on and stop acting weird. You were clearly over invested in this - that really sucks, honestly. If you aren’t disappointed, you are super-human. I’d be SO disappointed.

Telling a seller to make their horse more presentable, whether in anger or in passing, is weird. Continuing to converse with a seller about a horse when you have no intention of purchasing the horse is weird, no matter who is initiating it.

“No thanks, I’m not interested” and then done.

The seller is not asking for your advice, they are making excuses and continuing to market the horse. Goodbye to them!

Yes I did, I am aware of concussion side effects and I work in the medical field.

I’m not being emotional, simply relaying what was said, I’m not sure why endlessclimb is continually attacking me and acting like I’m somehow obsessively messaging the seller, when it was the seller was reaching out to me.

I haven’t spoken to seller since early this morning and let it be after she didn’t respond to my last response to her.

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Now I’m weird? :roll_eyes:

The seller actually did ask me for advice after this happened. So once again, you’re assuming so much here and really throwing out some wild statements.

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The whole story is now weird. Your story changes as much as hers does now lol

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My story hasn’t changed at all. But “ok”

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What type of rein was it, and where did it break? I bet CWD would replace them if they were new! At least you wouldn’t be out $$$ reins as your search continues.

Thank you, and I appreciate your tactful and well thought out response :slightly_smiling_face: You’re spot on

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One mistake I did make here is that my bridle is CWD, but I had switched out my CWD reins that were laced to my MToulouse platinum raised fancy stitched rubber reins that were also brand new (ironically because I felt the rubber reins would be a safer bet grip wise in the cold). They broke in the oddest place too, behind the hook stud closure about an inch behind where the loop keeper ends. Not on the stitching at all, the leather just straight up ripped in half on both sides. I already called and emailed over the photos, they’re refunding me and asking me to send back so they can investigate.

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@RavtoadOH OP for some reason a few posters are wanting to make you out to be a rookie, amateur, or just plain responsible for what has happened. It’s very weird I think to keep saying the OP should have done this, shouldn’t have done that, as though any of you are so superior.

As to finding a diamond in the rough? It happens if you’ve got your eyes open and are able to see past the “backyard” appearance of the horses situation. Plus maybe the horse had a minor health or training issue that the OP could straighten out with their experience. You never know unless you go look.

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Replying to my own post to add the following:

I did not mean this as a criticism of the OP, only as an example of a top professional who told me that (even) he didn’t ride a “trained” horse unless he’d first see it ridden. At that time (mid 90s), I wasn’t necessarily expecting this from someone of his standing and experience, especially since he was known for having an eye for a prospect that he could turn into a world-beater, but older/wiser me certainly understands now.

I wish the OP well, and fast healing!

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I think the attacks toward OP are totally unwarranted. I see nothing “sus” or “weird” about the OPs statements or behavior.

I almost bought a $5k horse from a local, reputable program. Horse was young, well-bred, did the young jumpers, but apparently didn’t like showing. They weee completely transparent with me in this. I was considering being willing to take the horse to shows and not show and see if I could get him past his anxiety. I ended up not doing it, but the opportunity was there to have a project of good breeding with show experience.

I’ve also ridden this horse (sold for $15k because of his major quirk) - import, shown in FEI (jumping), but would stop at a cross rail nowadays. He was lovely otherwise - to handle, load, flat, etc. He was sold to a pleasure rider who takes him to the beach and boards at a dressage barn.

I’m the kind of person who would also take a chance on a diamond in the rough. You never know until you try. I’ve also had a kid come try my horse and the trainer did not get on first, nor did I. Now I know my horse is SAFE, but they didn’t other than me telling them so. I let them do what they were comfortable with, and it went splendidly. You just never know.

Feel better OP!

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Thank you for the kind words :blush:

Yep! I’ve seen some amazing horses come out of terrible or strange conditions. One of the best horses I ever sat on that went up to GP SJ was found in an auction yard and raced until he was 7. Horse was only 15.3 but jumped incredibly with insane drive and athletic ability. He also SJ’ed competitively until he was 20.

I’ve seen other horses that were incredible prospects in every way possible turn out to be complete duds both mentally and physically.

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Poster in question sometimes likes to argue. Hope you are doing better!

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Jaminey this thread took a weird turn. OP. Honestly sincerely glad you are okay. Think you did your due diligence. Hope this horse lands in a soft place where they can figure out the enormity of its back story. The seller is definitely shady. Sorry you experienced all this.

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So true. It’s rare, but it can happen. I have a friend who has a knack for finding diamond in the rough horses. On two separate occasions, she came across nice horses that ended up in batshit crazy backyard situations - both of these horses were very green, but sane and sound and registered with quality pedigrees. One ended up in its situation due to a divorce (if I’m remembering correctly), and the other was caught up in the fallout of a complex export deal gone wrong. In both situations, the horses had low price tags and were presented with all sorts of oddities. The gamble paid off - both horses ended up being lovely.

That said, I think for every success story like this, there are countless train wreck stories. It never hurts to check out a potential diamond in the rough… but go into it with eyes wide open.

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My sense is that prior to social media the “diamond in the rough” scenario happened much more often.

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Definitely. It can happen. But most of the time it does not. Cinderella stories are wonderful. And rare. They exist. They just aren’t common. Which is why I’m really glad the OP shared their story. Because red flags should give us pause.
For our own safety.
Physically . Financially. and Morally.
People often don’t do the right thing. By the horse. By the purchaser. Caveat Emptor.

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OP, not you - there are gems out there. I’m sorry this one was a dud that hurt you!

I’ve bought several sight unseen - loved them all. Not a dud amongst them, though I did PPE each and tell myself they have 6 months to worm into my heart or they will be sold. Including <$5K WB that had 30 days on him, loved his pedigree, shipped him across North America and he was the best (now retired, but still thinks he’s the best!) horse I’ve owned. Multiple pros offered to buy him, multiple half siblings at the Olympics and he’s the one I put non-riding visitors on for a trail ride as he does not and will not put a foot wrong, even if you don’t know what you’re doing. I’d clone 10 more if I could!!

Sometimes they surprise you. If for the better, amazing… sorry it was for the worse for you!

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