Awww I love the second pic posted. Gorgeous!
I don’t know why I kept passing this thread but I did and so sorry! Just read the entire thread. Congratulations! She is so cute. What a pretty little face.
As far as the capturing your heart comment, that goes without saying. You will keep having those moments.
Terri
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More teasers. I’m procrastinating from work 
Baby photos are more fun.
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So sweet! I also have been lurking…congratulations!
yayyyyy, baby!! Congratulations on a safe foaling, and you’re going to have SO much fun!
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yayyyyy, baby!! Congratulations on a safe foaling, and you’re going to have SO much fun! :)[/QUOTE]
Thanks! I have a question for you: with being 99.9% positive that her mama is homozygous for black and with Mutt Daddy being half Friesian (aren’t they homozygous for black? Which would explain why his base color under the app is bay, which is black base with a modifier?), would that mean there is a 75% chance that little Queen is homozygous for black? I’m guessing at whether she’ll be black that fades in the sun or if she’ll be a true black like her mama, who doesn’t fade in the sun and stays black black all summer.
I have been lurking as well, and I just wanted to say she’s ADORABLE!!! Love the photos with her and mom nuzzling each other! And thank GAWD she isn’t that awful red roan like the other 2 colts were–I don’t like that color at all.
I’m so glad that you are doing right by her even though she was an accident.
Now, you’ll just have icing on the cake if she’s gaited–LOL!! 
She IS adorable – in that plain dirt paddock you’ll want to keep dipping that navel afew times a day for the first 2-3 days.
Congrats to you & that sweet, sweet babe.
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congrats…and no funky pintoloosa coat patterns![/QUOTE]
I, on the other hand, was hoping for a really crazy coat on a conformationally perfect baby. I have unusual taste in horse colors.
Congratulations, though, on a lovely healthy foal!
I am unable to determine whether she is cute from the pics given. Will need more pics to decide. :winkgrin::lol:
Seriously, very happy for you that foaling went well and you have a lovely filly. Congrats!
Friesians don’t have to be homozygous for black (EE). There is chestnut in the breed, not common but it is there. Since black is dominant, chestnut could hide for many many generations (Ee).
Regardless, Dad has at least one black gene since he’s bay. He could be EE or he could be Ee (the red gene could have come from the appy side too).
If you’re sure mom is homozygous (EE), there’s a 50% chance baby is heterozygous (Ee) if Dad was (Ee). If dad was EE then baby is certainly (100%) EE.
Congrats she is SO cute happy to hear all went well!!
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Thanks! I have a question for you: with being 99.9% positive that her mama is homozygous for black and with Mutt Daddy being half Friesian (aren’t they homozygous for black? Which would explain why his base color under the app is bay, which is black base with a modifier?), would that mean there is a 75% chance that little Queen is homozygous for black? I’m guessing at whether she’ll be black that fades in the sun or if she’ll be a true black like her mama, who doesn’t fade in the sun and stays black black all summer.[/QUOTE]
Being homozygous for black doesn’t mean the horse is a true black, for example our stallion is homozygous black and he can go a fine shade of brown over summer
Dont confuse homozygous black with lack of bleaching. Many horses will get sun bleached and faded no matter what type of black (EE or Ee) they are. And many more will not fade, even if they are Ee. The only way to know is to test.
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She IS adorable – in that plain dirt paddock you’ll want to keep dipping that navel afew times a day for the first 2-3 days.
Congrats to you & that sweet, sweet babe.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, we’ve been dipping with chlorhexidine in the morning and betadine in the afternoon. The vet said she liked betadine, but I read that chlorhexidine was better, so I settled in the middle and am alternating. I do it at feeding time, while mama is distracted
[QUOTE=didgery;5868248]I, on the other hand, was hoping for a really crazy coat on a conformationally perfect baby. I have unusual taste in horse colors.
Congratulations, though, on a lovely healthy foal![/QUOTE]
Haha, I was so afraid she would turn out crazy looking. I dunno, I was just so afraid that app pattern would come through and make things go wonky. Not ALL appy patterns are ugly, but SOME of them are so mottled looking, and I think they look like they have syphilis. I KNOW that there’s no bad color for a good horse, but that mottled look just doesn’t float my boat.
[QUOTE=furlong47;5868457]Friesians don’t have to be homozygous for black (EE). There is chestnut in the breed, not common but it is there. Since black is dominant, chestnut could hide for many many generations (Ee).
Regardless, Dad has at least one black gene since he’s bay. He could be EE or he could be Ee (the red gene could have come from the appy side too).
If you’re sure mom is homozygous (EE), there’s a 50% chance baby is heterozygous (Ee) if Dad was (Ee). If dad was EE then baby is certainly (100%) EE.[/QUOTE]
Ah, I see. You’re right, I was thinking percentage of black gene present, but punnet square would yield 50% chance of homozygous expression. Even with 75% of what’s in play is E, that e will still yield 50% chance in punnet square calculations.
[QUOTE=onelanerode;5868429]I am unable to determine whether she is cute from the pics given. Will need more pics to decide. :winkgrin::lol:
Seriously, very happy for you that foaling went well and you have a lovely filly. Congrats![/QUOTE]
Feast your eyes!!! 298 photos of photo gluttony. More to come! Forgive the rough look of the barn scenery. We are in the process of fixing the place up (it’s over 50 years old) plus the paddock is a dirt patch after I razed all the grass to the ground in August to rule out any fescue. Haha, as of this weekend, we are putting up more fencing. Now that I’ve confirmed that all that’s close to the barn at least isn’t fescue, we’re attaching 240 feet on to the front fence and back down around the barn using no-climb and hot wire at the top. All the wood that we pulled out of the loft to make room for the hay delivery is being chainsawed into firewood today http://www.flickr.com/photos/erikahana/sets/72157627783455668/
I gotcha. Well, haven’t tested my girl, but I know for sure her dam was and I’m almost 100% positive her sire was, except her sire wasn’t homozygous for pinto and her dam was. After talking with a girlfriend about it, I’m starting to lean more towards keeping the filly till she’s at least a yearling, and depending on where we’re moving and if we can find a farm to rent will determine if I rehome her or not. I’m really starting to lean towards wanting to keep her, but I’ll be practical about it. I actually already have a home lined up for her if I decide to part with her, but we’ll see. Because I’m considering keeping her, I am also considering more seriously registering her with the Friesian Heritage registry and with the Performance Horse Registry. I’ll be sending in samples for DNA typing, so I’m wondering if I can maybe get a more in depth analysis then. If it is determined that she has movement for dressage once she grows into herself a little more, I’ll end up leaning more heavily towards keeping her because her mom was so easy to break and is such a sweetheart. I dunno, still a crapshoot right now, and all determines on whether my fiance moves us for his PhD and if we can find a decent sized farm to lease or buy if we know we’ll be in the area long enough.
smokygirl is right, there is a separate gene(s) controlling non-fading. There is no test for it, unlike for the E genes.
One of our neighbors’ horses has a non-fade gene; he’s a chesnut who never fades one bit. His coat is beautiful all summer. I wish my bay horse had it – some summers he almost ends up looking like a buckskin!
We’ve suddenly started having lows in the 40s at night. This morning it had only warmed to 41 degrees when I woke up. I have a growing foal blanket on the way for the little one, but what should I do with my pair? Put them up in a stall or let them stay out? Mama’s stall is completely smoothwalled, so nothing for baby Queen to get hung up in, but I like letting my ponies roam. And what’s ok to put on Mama? I do have a fleece cooler without any leg surcingles that I could put on her so that baby Queen doesn’t have any straps to get tangled in. Mama hasn’t been laying down much that I can tell, so maybe it would stay put? I dunno, what’s the right protocol for clothing when foals are present? Mama is still slick because our days have still been in the 80s, but this week the lows are low and I don’t want her to shiver off any weight since she’s already using so much of her ingested energy to feed her baby.
I wouldn’t blanket either of them but absolutely no to the cooler on the mare. Stall at night if that makes you feel better or if the shelter outside is inadequate.
Ditto this.
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I second this! If you’re gonna get knocked up by a crazy coloured hideo-stud the least you can do is have a beautiful but funky coloured foal! 
Pleased all is well.
Congrats! She’s just adorable. I just been lurking on this thread and haven’t checked for awhile - you need to change the title!
