Zinnia’s dog
Any news yet about the errant hound??? Still jingling over here!!!
Nothing. 
Losing hope but calling all the vet clinics as they open this morning. I am hoping someone brings him in with porcupine quills-- I am pretty much the only person around who has basenjis. So it will be pretty simple if anyone appears with a brand new one. I just hope he is not already dead. We have coyotes and if he was hurt he has very little chance.
Is this thread a rabid argument?
I disagree that people are banned for disagreeing with any party line.
Probably a thread about Coth would not go on and on over there.
Zinniaz - as somebody who was banned by Master Mark for having a pro RK opinion, let me tell you… IT HAPPENS!
There is one particular poster on your dressage board, 3Sisters, that must have pictures on Mark, because she just drones on and on and turns into this very nasty person if you don’t agree with her. And most of the other posters just agree with any drivel she comes up with, and that includes Mark. And God forbid, you say anything about Mark’s registry of choice… 
It’s not a public bulletin board, it’s Mark’s personal forum. If you don’t have a problem with that, by all means stay there. And please, take policitallyincorrect with you.
(what’s Mark’s registry?)
I was saddened by many of the bannings. And I certainly find posters there that I disagree with. Had an unpleasant interchange with someone a week or two ago. BUt by far, the good posters there outweigh any bad. As I’m sure it is here. I have lurked here for a while but haven’t felt at home enough to post much… probably will now.
Especially as you all now know my dog saga.
again,
i don’t like to see anyone banned. but as far as i can tell they have been banned for being rude, not merely disagreeing.
some people can’t tell the difference between spirited argument and being insulting to others. don’t know if you are one of them, siegi, or not. i don’t read very single thread. but i have read some where it is clear that a banning was coming, but the rudeness just continued anyway.
is mr. basenji back yet?
And her emphasis is on what is so often ignored-- the basics. And to me this is purely classical and you can’t skip steps to get there. An active rear end over a supple swinging back into a receiving contact.
And of course, that is all there is to dressage - it is as simple, and yet as difficult as that! It really Isn’t so much the style of the trainer, it is the SKILL! But it is Also about working within the nature of the horse, and respecting him (or her) and allowing him to offer what he can, rather than trying to FORCE him to give more. And I think your Moo would not agree to anyone forcing her to do anything, so she sort of required you to learn the greatest think a horseperson can - Tact! Glad you found someone who can teach you the genuine traditions of dressage - you are So right about having experienced IT and then forever knowing IT when you get IT.
Now, regarding bannings and UDBB - I agree, Mark can be a bit heavy handed - basically, he will NOT tolerate personal attacks - and some people just cannot refrain from nasty cutting comments when they are unable to ‘win’ a debate. THAT will get you banned at UDBB. Now, it is interesting to note, we were just having a very civil discussion about the pros and cons of super deep training (don’t want to offend the IDWTHAthe rWord clique) and nobody got rude or defensive, and some very valid points were made. I sometimes wonder if THAT is what blew up Suzi - it was just to much meeting of matter and antimatter! But clearly, you CAN hold a differing opinion, and still be welcome. I would like to believe that if CoTH has a similar melt down someday in the future, we will be able to permit a long running thread that allows the refugees to gather while they wait for the all clear sign from base camp. I DO appreciate the moderators here allowing this discussion to carry on for so long - and it HAS gotten into discussing horses, and training, so it isn’t completely off topic. I know there are members here who can’t come there, and that is unfortunate, but really, it isn’t about WHAT you say or think, but HOW you express it. Civility counts. I like the Mayberry RFD environment - I don’t care if the ‘real world’ is harsh, I don’t have to let that change me, and I don’t have to wallow in it, I can step around bile and vitrol, and stick to the honey. So, those of you who believe that debating the party line gets you banned at UDBB, sorry that is what you believe, but I have clearly seen different.
Zinnia - Please don’t give up yet - basenjis are very tough for their size - and they have incredible noses which they Love to follow, and they are also very independant souls. Let’s continue to jingle prayers for a safe return, and PLEASE post as soon as that happens! Miracles happen. Hang tight to the rope of hope.
Sigh, Monday morning and still no UDBB. Wicky, for the first time in MONTHS I had a smile on my face when I rode yesterday.
OK, it was the first time in weeks that I rode at all.
Suzy, being the Ultimatedressage Queen and an expensive one at that is in need of some serious retail therapy (or maybe sacrificial offerings) to restore her to her good health and benevolence. And Mark is probably WAAAAY beyond pizza and coke at this point.
I sent in a donation using Paypay and my credit card to the email address on what should be the UDDB home page. Paypal will ask what you are paying for. I used Service which has no fees. Evidently if you use a credit card and select Quasi Cash it might be considered to be a cash advance and have associated fees.
nope. Worry is high.
Well said eqipoize!
I also find it interesting that there are almost 11,000 views for this thread.
Zinnniaz, BIG JINGLES I have a roaming GSD that went missing for 3 days. He returned on the day I fried his favorite stinky meal of liver!
After all these years I have a very good idea about what’s going wrong on TOB.
Go with the flow or be banned. Or better go with Kram and his proteges or be banned.
I have been asked to join TOB 3 years ago, and I can still send you all the mail I received from Mark, Mike etc… Wooow they were so happy that i was on TOB,
Your book is next to our open fire-place and we read it every day
UNTILL… I started to post critique about the way the most of the USA riders create their Musical Freestyle. (at that time I didn’t know that Mark’s wife was using exactly this way of making Musical Freestyles for her cliënts).
So the banning started, and untill today I hold the world record of most banned person on TOB.
Honey, please know that if sheer force of will has anything to do with it, then he’ll get home, I’m jingling, Moo’s jingling and so are my dogs…
Don’t give up hope yet.xxxxxxxxxM
Theo, you mean that you could go back and then got banned again?? Guess Mark didn’t want to do without your video clips… As I said before, TOB looks like Mark’s personal forum and as long as you agree with his opinions as well as his fan club you’re good to go.
His registry? The AWS, I think… that’s where his stallion is registered. Let’s not even get started on that subject, please!
Siegi, One of the best thing to do, when surfing the Internet is to buy a small little program called “proxy-roulette”. This software hides your IP-address while surfing, so you don’t get all these SPAM in your Mailbox.
Another benefit is that you can login and create numerous accounts everywhere and anywhere. I don’t have time for this but my son makes a living out of this. Ergo when I read on TOB that they are refering to me or my website I jump in.
So if you want to post on TOB, just let me know and my son create an account for you :lol:
I’m amazed that anyone spends the time and energy doing this, and then admits to it! Pretty lame.
Hurray - there are signs of life from Suzi - I just got an email that there had been a reply to the extended trot discussion! Now, I still couldn’t get ON the bb - but this gives me an inkling that work is progressing and we might be up and running soon! Which is a good thing, as I keep getting server error messages here - I think the additional pressure of a few hundred extra people is straining the system and I would hate for Coth’s server to crash next!!!
Theo - I hope that you are a charming man in person, but your writing style on the bb is nothing short of arrogant, rude and filled with personal insults. In fact your writing style is SO distinct, that Each time you have tried to ‘reappear’ in a new form, you are spotted and kicked out simply because you are once again using a Free Email address. Some people actually get in with these free email addresses because they maintain a friendly attitude and no one reports them for inappropriate conduct.
I doubt that the Susol’s feel threatened by your business, you are on a different continent! But really, I could go back (one the bb in on line) and copy and paste some of the comments you have made in the past, and others would see for themselves, you just can’t resist attacking those who disagree with you. I am sure it is just ‘artistic temperment’ - but it doesn’t come accross well on the bb. I am sure this site suits you much better, which makes me wonder why you KEEP trying to sneak onto UDBB??? Anyway, I am sure you will be back, and sooner or later, you will burst into a string of insults about how we Americans don’t know diddily, and we have No appreciation for good dressage, and everything Modern is head and shoulders over anything written in the past, and people who post on the internet don’t know how to ride or at least never get around to it (of course, that might be a pot and kettle comment) and besides, the classic guys really take horses out behind the barn and either beat them or turn them into pretzels. And then you will complain about being banned for having a different opinion, rather than realizing you just don’t know how to present your position without being defensive and insulting. Must be a European thing, eh?
Oh well, soon we can find the open gate, and the herd will blast back into greener pastures. Once again, thank you CoTH for the hospitality, I hope we brought a little something positive into your forums, and that the strain on your servers hasn’t done any permanent damage. And Zinnia, we are still jingling for prodigal basenjis!!!
I try to stay pretty neutral on all the boards I post on, simply because you never know who’s lurking and watching what you say. However, the reason I chose the UDBB over COTH is that I feel it is more of an organized board, and the members aren’t as vicious as some that post here on COTH. Of course any debate will have it’s sides, etc. I do feel as if some members of each board tend to become petty and childish, and so I stay out of that. It is insulting to me that members make personal stabs at each other, when in truth - you don’t REALLY know the other member from tom’s cat.
I do admit I lurk on COTH and other boards, because there is a wealth of GOOD information, not always snotty and catty remarks. On that note…
Erin, thank you so much for allowing the UDBB members to post here on not-so-very horsey threads created, while Mark fixes the server.
silly rabbits
Jingles for the basenji, Zinn.
3Sisters isn’t here to defend herself, but she considers her ideas with some depth. I don’t agree most of the time, but she doesn’t come across as a drone. It’s called discussion. No one gets banned for that.
Bans were not for any other reason than schoolyard idiocy.
Party line? No party line.
Sar and co were banned because they behaived like kindergarteners.
I still have copies of the threads, from all boards. It was bad.
I figure if you don’t have anything on your mind but disliking UDBB, well, you clearly need to get a life.
COTH is nice.
BUT even your mod has posted that the breeding forum is nutty. Your mod.
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Nothing wrong with multiple boards, etc. Big deal.
Maybe it seems DQ heavy there, but at least it’s got two training forums that are really helpful and low on the snarkiness factor.
HUGE benefit for many of us.
Ready to go back home because even this thread as already descended into the same old same old:
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Only europeans know “real” dressage and riding. Us beotians must go sometime to experiement, the real thing.
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TOB is a communist BB where all descending opinions are banned.
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The ODGs are dead, the modern horse is here, move on.
etc…
X fingers that Suzy is better.
And absolutely, the Horse Care forum here is great.
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