yeah it’s not considered “safe” enough!! A few zoos do feed it to their big cats.
Can’t be worse than the past 2 days we’ve had here in PA, 2 days of 98 and 99 with humidity that feels like 105. 
not happy, I hate the heat.
Can’t be worse than the past 2 days we’ve had here in PA, 2 days of 98 and 99 with humidity that feels like 105. not happy, I hate the heat.
Except that you have 2 days of it… we have 2 months of it :eek: We had a 95 degree day over the weekend and my husband thought it was finally cool enough for us to go canoeing! :yes:
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who helped this horse, can’t wait to hear the updates from Bounce! What a despicable story, but so glad it has a happy ending.
Sigh
Sigh. Can’t wait to get home and give my ReRun horse a hug! Also going to hug my barren mare with photic headshaking.
Glad he has a fresh start in a great place.
After college, I sold my mare to my sister. After a couple of years of not having time to ride, she sold her. I couldn’t afford to buy her back and I’ve oftened wondered what became of her yet been afraid to know the answer.
Source please?
What is your source of this information? I’m willing to accept that if there is any verification.
My research says otherwise.
The only thing I could find is that horsemeat is now too expensive as an export to be routinely used in pet food, so by-products are mostly now used. But even this was from an unspecified source (i.e., annonymous USDA veterinarian).
Nothing about it’s safety, etc.
I do know of currently operating sale barns with currently operating dog food plants within 50 yards.
Yay for Bounce and Castaway! I can’t wait to meet this lucky boy! 
To answer the question re. dog food, in addition to the expense of horsemeat as a “delicacy” 
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The following quote is from Chronicle of the Horse (2004):
“Today, though, horse meat is no longer used in dog food. In 1966 the Fair Packaging and Labeling Act forced pet-food manufacturers to list their products’ ingredients, and consumers were upset by the amount of horse meat in their pet food. So they switched to beef and beef byproducts. As a result, U.S. horse slaughterhouses, which never numbered more than 35, declined sharply after 1966, and only three remain today.”
The link to the complete article:
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Sounds like she wanted to ‘show him’ and make sure he didn’t get a good next life.
Where is Akindale located?
This doesn’t debunk the overbreeding issue at all. It debunks the pro-slaughter arguments.
If horses were a rare commodity, none would end up at slaughter.
I agree 100%. We are the intelligent species in this equation - it’s our job to do the civilized thing.
So true, Lookout.
Surely you don’t really believe that? The too old to work, the unsound/infirm, the “crazy” or untrainable, would still be disposed of - very possibly by slaughter. In fact, if horses were rare, they might become more valuable (pricewise) for slaughter because those who like the taste of horse flesh would have to pay a price comparable to the “average” riding horse price.
Thank you for posting this link. This was a very informative article.
It included both sides of the issue with some very legitimate arguments.
It is true that pet food companies must list ingredients. There are now
folks who are refusing to use certain pet foods because they include
rabbit meat, lamb meat, or other meat from animals they have an emotional
attachment to. But from what I read, the real reason (according to the
pet food companies) for not using horse was that the meat was now
too expensive. By-products are listed on the label by euphimisms such
as “animal proteins” etc.
So Wilson has arrived! He is very sweet, and except for the 150 lbs that he needs to put on, very cute! We had one minor scare when I checked his tattoo… it looked very much like a “J”, which would make him 26 years old. I got out the old faithful pony club book and checked his teeth… and all is well! Just a horrible tattoo job! Updates will continue. I am planning a short ride on Sunday with him!
To his previous owner… you are a fool… :mad:
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Showmom- Look up AFCO labeling regs. They distinctly prohibit pet foods in CA from including animal by-products/meat byproducts from containing horse meat. THe federal AFCO regs state that it must say, Horse meat by products. Since commercially prepared pet food is made to be sold in all 50 states, the commercial producers do not use horse meat, since they would have to make some without horse meat for CA which would be cost preventative. There was an old slaughter thread (“On the Fence” or" Wild horse protection" not sure which,) where I linked the actual regs. But, there is no horse meat/meat by products in commercially made pet food. Horses are slaughtered for human consumption overseas, and a very small amount of meat goes to zoos for big cats.
92.3 % of the horses slaughtered are in good condition, per the USDA stats. QH/QH type horses make up the largest percentage of those slaughtered. THere are only 3 slaughter houses for horses in the US (2 in TX and 1 in IL).
There are many rendering facilities in the country. Renderers take an already dead horse (that died on the track/at home/at the vets) and haul the carcass to their plant to be “broken down” and disposed. Sometimes the mane or tail is sold for horse hair, hooves/legs sold to places that dissect them to make anantomical educational material (freeze dried hooves/legs), or they save the hide. But renderers ONLY take already dead horses and their parts do not enter the food supply for people or animals.
Here is a good link for those wishing to get more info on slaughter myths…
http://www.trfinc.org/news/TRF_WhitePaper.pdf
MAHR- Thanks for saving this guy! And Bounce, same to you. Best of luck with him.
Yup, a cruel end in the slaughterhouse is not the answer for our trusted friends. We’re supposed to be the intelligent ones. You have to wonder sometimes. :o
I hope it’s cooling off for you, I can’t take those temps or humidity for the 2 days let alone for 2 months.
Congratulations on owning Wilson. Let us know what his tattoo really says. 26, hmmm, almost old enough for me. :winkgrin:
I can’t wait to hear another update on Castaway! Bounce, your one post wasn’t long enough!
I’m just itching to go pick up my own ottb.
Sorry about that! We have “non-horsey” company in this weekend, so my COTH time is limited. Will post more after Monday! :yes:
I just finished reading this thread and have to say a big kudos to Beverly, Akindale and bouce!! And bounce, you realize when your guests leave, we need pictures!
