Regardless… no lasix, no nasal strip, straight mile (no turn), jock unaccustomed to Ascot course, much softer than what she’s used to… I still it was a good win regardless of time 
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Regardless… no lasix, no nasal strip, straight mile (no turn), jock unaccustomed to Ascot course, much softer than what she’s used to… I still it was a good win regardless of time :)[/QUOTE]
Did someone suggest it wasn’t?
Miss Temple City has Ryan Moore…
thanks again. I think we have discussed before about the standing start. But I didn’t take into account the fact of running up hill and in a bog. But I was thinking about the usual sort of mile here, but maybe on dirt, usually around 1:35-6. It just seemed really slow. I DO NOT MEAN THAT AS CRITICISM, JUST CURIOUS! really!
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The time was 1:43
Keep in mind that
i) races in England (and most of the rest of the world for that matter) are timed from a standing start, as opposed to the run up timer in the States. That adds a couple of seconds to the time.
ii) the Queen Anne is over a straight mile is uphill for a good part of the race, esp the last 2f which are a stiff rise.
ii) the going was officially “Soft”, which translated to American standards would be like a bog. What they consider “Good” in England would be Soft in the US.
The race was listed as slow by 5.18secs by the Racing Post, i.e it was 5.18 slower than the average time for races over that course and distance.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for pointing out the non use of “run up time”. I have had to explain this many times to clients when trying to sell/buy them a horse from that side of the pond.
Americans have no idea of a “straight” mile course totally foreign to us, and yes pun intended.
I have wondered if the term “flat mile” often used in this country to describe just about every mile race comes from, I assume your side of the pond.Because a lot of the racecourse I have been to over “there” are not “flat”. IMO Newmarket is a “flat mile”. All things being equal. I am not sure how many times the term “flat mile” could be used.
As you know other than Santa Anita all race course in this country are “flat”. At least for the last 100 years or so.
I have been to Ascot a number of times and IMO compared to a number of the racecourses I have been to in other parts of England and Ireland and other than Long Champs, St Cloud, “country tracks” in France I don’t consider Ascot to be that “up hill”.
“translated to American standards would be like a bog” yup, lol. In this country we would call it “hock deep”. It would have to be an VERY special race with VERY special horses, “connections” not to be taken off and be run on MTO. At most racetracks if a drunk walks out and takes a piss on the turf course it is taken off.
For my fellow Americans given the fact that no 2 racecourses are the same over “there”, and races are run regardless of “going” the time of a race is pretty much meaningless. If you are going to go on a “punting” vacation at the races better read up on how to handicap “Euro style”.
A big congrats to Tepins!! I really enjoy seeing “our” horses beating them at their “own game”.
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i) races in England (and most of the rest of the world for that matter) are timed from a standing start, as opposed to the run up timer in the States. That adds a couple of seconds to the time.[/QUOTE]
I am now confused. What is a "standing start’ vs a "run up timer’?
Sounded like maybe but obviously a bit over-reactive? Sorry.
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Thanks LaurieB. Unfortunately I don’t have TVG and can not get it.
I’d love to see a replay of Galileo Gold’s race in the St.James Place. I’ll suppose I’ll have to be patient and wait for someone to put it up on youtube.[/QUOTE]
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I am now confused. What is a "standing start’ vs a "run up timer’?
Sounded like maybe but obviously a bit over-reactive? Sorry.[/QUOTE]
Standing start means the timer starts as soon as the gate opens, first horse out of the gate.
In this country the timer “trigger” is placed X feet from the gate. The distance from depends on the track. So the horses have a “run up” before triggering the timer to start. They have a “running start” before the timer is set off.
The distance from the gate can be as little as 5 feet to as many as 50+ if memory serves. The “distance” can be found on the horse’s PP, the “specs” for a particular racetrack and is referred to as the “run up”. Can be useful to know when handicapping a race/horse.
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I am now confused. What is a "standing start’ vs a "run up timer’?
Sounded like maybe but obviously a bit over-reactive? Sorry.[/QUOTE]
This might explain the run up start.
Interesting on standing vs run up start. I’ll have to see if I can see the timer next time I watch a race. Wonder where the run up usage came from.
Lady Aurelia in the Queen Mary looked fantastic and blew away the competition.
Miss Temple City wasn’t as fortunate. She finished well but didn’t hit the board.
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here ya go
http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/paco-boys-galileo-gold-wins-the-battle-of-the-guineas-winners-in-the-st-jamess-palace/[/QUOTE]
Thank you!
In the races I’ve caught that have had US entries, I think the US has represented themselves well. Not always a win but nice placement. In The Chesham this morning, Create A Dream held her own and finished third (after running in first for about the first 1/2 mile).
Nemoralia (sp?) I believe got up for second in the Coronation Stakes
And a late edit…
It is so pretty watching the distance shot of the horses walking in a loose pack up to the gate against that green, green grass and with all the lovely browns, bays, etc and the colorful jockey silks
I love the hats! And Kittens Joy had a winner, I believe.
I also love the farrier, if he needs to make changes at the gate, is still in morning coat and top hat
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I also love the farrier, if he needs to make changes at the gate, is still in morning coat and top hat :)[/QUOTE]
What if the farrier is a lady? Would she be allowed to wear heels and a fascinator to shoe at the gate?
OMG, heels in soft turf :eek:
I did see lady commentators in fascinators interviewing the winning jocks via microphone on a stick (vs Donna Brothers who I am not fond of anyway interviewing winning jocks while bouncing along on a track pony 
).
Just came across this. Ken Ramsey is determined to win at Ascot. So far he is very unhappy and his trainers are hearing about it.
https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/ken-ramseys-ultimatum-his-trainers-over-royal-ascot-/
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Just came across this. Ken Ramsey is determined to win at Ascot. So far he is very unhappy and his trainers are hearing about it.
What a whiner. He’s been in this game long enough to know that there are no guarantees in racing.
I lost respect for him way back when he was found to have attempted to bribe another trainer to scratch her horse so that his horse could draw in. The KHRA fined him pretty harshly, IIRC.
Childish of me, but this latest sort of makes me automatically want to root against the Ramsey “Kittens”.
