But!!
According to Phillip’s website, there’s no mention of the DSQ. It claims he finished 12TH!!
Well that’s weird, maryalden. I wonder what’s up… 
I think it might be time for someone to insist on a rules refresher before major international competition. Between the heavy boots DQ and the extra refusal 40 points…
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You would have to think that people at this level of competition would bother to get to know the rules.[/QUOTE]
my thoughts exactly!!!
I think in one of the stories I read, someone thought the rule was only for the Showjumping competition, not the showjumping phase for eventing.
It’s really WHACK-- one webpage shows Phillip Dutton in 12th place, another webpage shows him DQ.
It is the rider’s responsibility to know the rules. And certainly the coaches and trainers should as well.
I am sure that every coke dealer and cokehead would disagree!
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You mean to say that all those people that have jobs with USEF and NOT ONE of them knew the rule, or “mentioned it” to the coach or grooms or the riders???
Negligence, I think![/QUOTE]
I sure have to agree with you. How in the hell do they expect us to donate and support them when they can’t even get the weight of the boots right. I don’t even let the rider off the hook on this one. If he’s going to play THEN DAMN IT READ THE STUPID EASY RULES!!! How embarrassing for our country. How many people had to blow that in order for him to be eliminated.
Rule might not have been in effect
This is on the Eventing forum…
The FEI EVENTING Committee adopted the 1 fall rule, and made it effective Aug. 1 2008. They also notified us of this. The FEI JUMPER Committee wrote and adopted the 500g boot rule and in notifying us, specified that it would take effect for Eventing following review by the Eventing Committee and then, not before Jan. 1, 2009. No special notification was received regarding early adoption of the boot rule, so to me that means that it should not yet be in effect.
Malcolm
How often do you weigh your horse’s boots? Do you have it memorized? Or can you eyeball the difference between 500g and 700g in boots? Because I’ve been in alot of chem labs, and I can’t. The only ones who should be griping is Dutton and the US team.
Just curious… why would you use that boot on a hind leg anyway?
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This is on the Eventing forum…
The FEI EVENTING Committee adopted the 1 fall rule, and made it effective Aug. 1 2008. They also notified us of this. The FEI JUMPER Committee wrote and adopted the 500g boot rule and in notifying us, specified that it would take effect for Eventing following review by the Eventing Committee and then, not before Jan. 1, 2009. No special notification was received regarding early adoption of the boot rule, so to me that means that it should not yet be in effect.
Malcolm[/QUOTE]
Since I figure a lot of readers here may not be eventers (and some that are) so wouldn’t know but, “Malcolm” is on the USEA Board of Gov. as well as the Chairman of the USEA Rules Committee. That’s a big time heads up post.
If Malcolm is right, this is a mistake by the FEI NOT the US coaches and riders. The US Team coach and staff can’t exactly inform the riders if they hadn’t been informed by the FEI of the change! (And the FEI didn’t even go through proper proceedure to make it a rule in the first place, so there is a chance they enforced a rule that wasn’t actually one…)
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How often do you weigh your horse’s boots? Do you have it memorized? Or can you eyeball the difference between 500g and 700g in boots? Because I’ve been in alot of chem labs, and I can’t. The only ones who should be griping is Dutton and the US team.[/QUOTE]
If it is a rule and is in effect, then buy a scale and weigh the stupid boots. You have to do whatever it takes to comply with the rules.
Are you talking specifically about the weighted boots? Because in every jumper world I’ve ever seen, the horses show with boots on.
About as often as I measure my dressage whip, or the length of my spurs or check if my bit is legal. ie if I want to use something heavy, long or strong and know it is close to the legal limit I check.
I can certainly tell the difference between a normal 200g jumping boot and a 700g weight boot by hand though.
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I am sure that every coke dealer and cokehead would disagree![/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yep, should have known the rules - both Dutton and the chef d’equipe. I had no idea about this rule and am going to weigh some boots now but then again I’m not representing my country at the Olympics…
ETA: Is this just an FEI rule or does it apply to USEF too?
At the moment, it is just an FEI rule.
FEI boot weight rule?
I am wondering about this rule that caused his disqualification. I read online that the new rule is a 500 gram limit. I figured that is not much at all and decided to go to the barn and weigh some boots I ride in. Is that 500 grams per boot or per pair? I weighed a pair of Woof full hind boots (neoprene w/ rubber guard and double velcro closures) for a large horse (warmblood) and they weighed 680 grams. These boots used to be the standard for eventing when I did that 10 years ago. They are not weighted boots and I used to use them when I took my horse cross country for protection. It seems that 500 grams might get you a pair of short neoprene ankle boots but not much more. Just wondering what people know about this new rule.
As I read it, the rule is 500 grams per boot.
Not everyone uses them that way, although some people do, and it does sound more logical. Many people though believe the added weight makes the horse more conscious and careful of the hind end and also use them in the show ring. Or did when they were more popular, now I see more Doda boots than anything.
