How about Kansas? I have some friends wanting to go for their bronze and we have some good trainers out here, but I don’t follow dressage out here close enough (just really go to CTs and dressage schooling shows) to know how the state fares. Since I’m on the line how about Missouri too?
This is pretty interesting to me. I know the National Equestrian Center just got a big footing upgrade (if there is still Regionals, I’m planning to go there!), so this market seems like it has opportunity - a good number of Bronze medalists who don’t yet have their Silver or Gold and a high quality venue nearby.
I think a more meaningful number would be medals/USDF members (not total state population). Does anyone have access to that info?
Totally agree, TOTAL medals is irrelevant - CA will always win that race. We have almost 40 million people +/- - almost 50% more then TX, the next biggest state. And CA is geographically huge - there are areas that don’t have any dressage. So if you are looking at a big state, realize that dressage may not be in the entire state
Somewhere in the USDF web site you can see membership by State & GMO. Last May (2019) I tallied up the numbers and the GMO membership totals were 15,857
@MysticOakRanch that’s a fair point! With the data @pluvinel provided, that would be really easy to put together. Give me a bit and I can crank that out!
Now that I’m going through the data, the problem with this is that GMO population doesn’t equal USDF membership population. Great example is Illinois, where there are only 60 members of a GMO, but 255 people have their bronze medal. I couldn’t find on USDF a full membership by state, but if anyone knows where to get it, I’ll gladly do the math!
The “population” totals were for 2019…the medal totals are for “forever”…eg., once you have a medal you have it.
I suppose if you have a gold medal, you might also have a bronze and a silver thus double/tripple counting.
So if the rider competed for those medals the totals are additive, although they could have just “come out” and rode at GP for their Gold medal.
You can “normalize” your data with the GMO population…no problem if you have 140%. The data is the data. WHY the data exists the way it is, is another question. One could think it just means that IL riders rode up the levels thus a Gold medal might imply that they are counted in the Bronze and Silver.
Again, that is NOT a problem. The data is the data.
Actually if you have more medal winners than 100% of GM members for a state, then that raises the question of where these people are coming from?
One can ask if there are certain states that have more medal winners than GM members. One could then ask Why? are these medal winners not GM members? Are they PM members? Or are they part of the “masses”?
It is still interesting that California has 17% of the GM members which is about the totals for PA, MA and FL combined…can we say 800-lb gorilla?
though these numbers of current GMO / USDF members are thrown off in the medal count as you cannot assume anyone who had medals are actually still active members
I know for Washington there are medal winners who are longer active or even in the area. That is where the numbers start making no sense
Thank you! Yes, we have a pretty active dressage scene in this area, with two active GMOs that each put on 3-6 USEF shows each year–one of them regularly hosts our area’s RC. We also have several farms that put on another 6-8 USEF shows. And there about four dozen schooling shows in this area that cater to folks that don’t want to show at the USEF competitions, or that use them as opportunities to prepare their horse for USEF shows.
Regarding medals - I know a fair number of people who are 1-2 scores shy of their bronze and several who are 1-2 scores shy of their silver. Among them are folks who skip a level because they don’t like the tests (2nd and 4th primarily). And they don’t care enough about medals to finish the requirements.