Gottagrey, I understand about soda causing a positive test. So can peppermints (with the real peppermint oil), but did she say what is in Doritos that would cause a positive test?
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Gottagrey, I understand about soda causing a positive test. So can peppermints (with the real peppermint oil), but did she say what is in Doritos that would cause a positive test?[/QUOTE]
Could be paprika? Or pepper powders that would test like capsican?
Glad I was never tested. I share all my food with my horse. I never thought about it. Wow.
I remember getting a stern warning many years ago about sharing a poppy seed bagel with a horse. :lol:
anything with pepper will potentially throw a positive; paprika to chilis. Be aware of heating gels and rubs
The “old” days when TB’s comprised the majority of hunters were easier on the testers because most racehorses are taught to pee as soon as they hear someone whistle.
Back in those days, I used to offer my ammie horse to testers who had not fulfilled their quota for the day, because Valor would pee within seconds of hearing a tuneless whistle. Testers loved horses who were whistle/pee trained.
Not as many WB’s have that training. 
I’m all for drug testing. Keeps everything fair… for the most part at least! I wish they did it at the local shows.
If your horse tests negative, do they send you the results?
We were tested at an AQHA show, they follow USEF drug rules. We were never notified and our points were awarded, we did not have anything to worry about , but never heard a thing.
I happened to be in secretary’s booth when the USEF vet came to select for drug testing before the classes started. He told the secretary that he would test the 2nd place finisher in class 10, the 4th place in class 119 etc.
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Due to the 12 hour rule?
You can still inject with stuff 12+ hours prior to competing and it’s not nefarious. Adequan, for example.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention after horse is done showing or,if one were to colic.
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You also need to consider that techs only collect urine. Vets collect blood.
In addition, it’s not as if collecting from a horse is a 5 minute deal. It would just be impossible to test every single horse every single time.
In part, I don’t agree that it is necessarily the process of identifying a horse and collecting as much as it is people staying one step ahead of tests that will identify banned substances. I think that is a bigger issue to tackle.[/QUOTE]
That’s because the urine tests are more definitive.
And if anyone can tell the testers far enough ahead of time what the “drug du jour” would be, they would happily devise a test for it. People use the darndest things. :rolleyes:
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Might be better to ask your question in a new thread rather than bringing an old one back up.
No, they don’t send you the results but when they collect the samples you get a paper with a number on it and you can go to the USEF website after a certain amount of time and confirm the results.
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I happened to be in secretary’s booth when the USEF vet came to select for drug testing before the classes started. He told the secretary that he would test the 2nd place finisher in class 10, the 4th place in class 119 etc.[/QUOTE]
I would have to say that vet did it wrong by announcing his plan.
What if somebody else heard him say that to the secretary and as a result, entered other classes so they wouldn’t get tested?
AQHA classes are fairly limited so I can’t see that happening and since there are multi judges per class almost impossible to determine in advance the placings.
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AQHA classes are fairly limited so I can’t see that happening and since there are multi judges per class almost impossible to determine in advance the placings.[/QUOTE]
Your post did not mention it was an AQHA show, but it was still a bad idea on the vet’s part. Somebody could also scratch if they had that information in advance.
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Might be better to ask your question in a new thread rather than bringing an old one back up.
No, they don’t send you the results but when they collect the samples you get a paper with a number on it and you can go to the USEF website after a certain amount of time and confirm the results.[/QUOTE]
Where on the website can you do that?
Been tested many many times , all clean. I was only mad one time, when we came out of the ring they chose a horse AGAIN that they had already tested two days earlier! I rolled my eyes and said are you kidding me you just tested her day before yesterday. Tester turned around and instead tested my other horse from the same class. Which pissed me off and hit me wrong that day, both horses tested completely negative, but I totally felt like the vet was on a witch hunt to test as many horses from our training barn. We’ve never had a positive drug test, may I say one more time so I knew they’d find nothing.
Freshman what is procedure when a random placing horse from a randomly selected class has already been tested that day or week? Just curious. This happened at Penn National.
Why would having been tested on a previous day rule out testing them that day? The results are not back yet. And some might figure they were “safe” and resume over medicating or whatever because they already were picked.
They don’t review which horses were tested, they just pick say, 2nd and 4th before the class is pinned. Usually do not get to pick out specific animals and they do not know their names, don’t track the show number. They are usually lab techs under the supervision of a vet contracted to perform the tests, they don’t know anybody.
I had some long and informative chats with techs waiting for my mare to pee, they ended up pulling blood once.
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Freshman what is procedure when a random placing horse from a randomly selected class has already been tested that day or week? Just curious. This happened at Penn National.[/QUOTE]
Random means random. If they start putting qualifications and exceptions on the choices, then it is no longer random! Getting tested twice is just the luck of the draw.
Just like flipping a coin, you can get heads a bunch of times in a row and it is still random.
