Veterinarian Proudly Shows Off Cat She Killed

[Fractious_Fox]

I couldn’t look at the link. I would be appalled if I learned this was done by a regular person. I just can’t wrap my brain around the fact that this was a VETERINARIAN.

I don’t have much to add except that I had no idea leg traps were still used and common. Especially in areas where there was the smallest chance for domestic animals or people (children!) could encounter them. I grew up on a farm. I am a chronic cat person. I understood that sometimes my dad had to dispatch a troublesome and diseased feral with his .22. I have trapped countless cats and had them sterilized (part of the Ally Cat Allies program) - I am sure tons of people on this board have done the same thing. BUT, I have never ever heard of using a leg trap, shooting one with a bow and arrow (AND I AM AN ARCHERY ENTHUSIAST!!!), and then parading the “kill” proudly. Seriously??? Who does this? None of the hunters I have shot with (bows) would ever, ever have done this. And no archer I know would shoot a cat with a bow, feral or not, or even if it was in need of a quick death.

[Alagirl]

[QUOTE=Calvincrowe;8111880]
What bothers me most, as a pet and livestock owner, is the way a vet has willfully killed a pet…a house cat…and gleefully posted a photo and commentary on a public internet site. She’s a VET. Who throws away 8+years of education, all that knowledge and theoretically compassion and love of animals, because they are learning to bow hunt??! Who does that? One assumes she’s intelligent and good at her job–she had to know that if others saw her post then they might be outraged, not happy for her. She’s an idiot for not thinking.

And as far as SSS? I just find that term and practice awful, hateful and lacking in any form of compassion. Ugh. Yeah, those feral (ha!) cats are just such a plague upon yourself.[/QUOTE]

Shut up is the operative part in the SSS thing.
But your post pretty much sums it up.

[goldenrow]

Hmm. I’m not sure how I feel about this one.

I do have a feral cat problem. And a racoon, skunk, opposum, woodchuck, mouse, and other random rodentia problem. They bring in diseases, crap all over my hay, arenas, and yard. They all howl outside my bedroom window and torment my dogs, who then also howl all night.

We could catch something every night if we put out a trap. Instead, we shoot any feral - meaning, without a tag - creature antogonizing my domestic critters. We generally choose a .22 to dispatch them, but with it being bow-turkey hunting season here, it is not out of the realm of possibility that a feral cat would be shot with a bow. For a cat, it would be a near instantaneous death. No different from being shot with a gun. I would not classify it as in-humane. Several of the vets at the clinic I patronize hunt deer, pheasants, turkeys, coyotes, etc. with various tools and none of them have a problem with it being in-humane.

The only issue of this story, is the target. If it had been a turkey, 30 people would have “liked” the photo and it would have shifted down the newsfeed.

Not all cats are “kitties.” Truly feral cats can be destructive to domestic barn cat populations and to property.

I have no idea about the situation this cat was shot in. Suburbia? Or out in the rural wilderness like much of Texas is? Had the cat been a nuissence to it’s neighbors? It is sad that it turns out that it belonged to someone. Please use this sad example as a reason to tag and collar your pets.

I know my post may not be popular, but feral cats can be a true problem.

[southblues]

It is hard to understand how somebody that stupid could not only get into vet school, but also to graduate and pass boards. I guess she is an example of book smarts with absolutely no common sense. She also lacking in culture and good tastes. I didn’t know people could be that crude in this country.

I also feel sorry for the people that loved that cat. I hope that I never catch somebody holding my cat in that position because I fear I might lose some of my common sense and do something I would regret.

[JBD]

Cats are not vermin and there is no bow hunting season for them. That beyotche enjoyed killing the cat. I can’t imagine what drives someone to display a domestic animal like a trophy.

[jetsmom]

[QUOTE=goldenrow;8111962]
Hmm. I’m not sure how I feel about this one.

I do have a feral cat problem. And a racoon, skunk, opposum, woodchuck, mouse, and other random rodentia problem. They bring in diseases, crap all over my hay, arenas, and yard. They all howl outside my bedroom window and torment my dogs, who then also howl all night.

We could catch something every night if we put out a trap. Instead, we shoot any feral - meaning, without a tag - creature antogonizing my domestic critters. We generally choose a .22 to dispatch them, but with it being bow-turkey hunting season here, it is not out of the realm of possibility that a feral cat would be shot with a bow. For a cat, it would be a near instantaneous death. No different from being shot with a gun. I would not classify it as in-humane. Several of the vets at the clinic I patronize hunt deer, pheasants, turkeys, coyotes, etc. with various tools and none of them have a problem with it being in-humane.

The only issue of this story, is the target. If it had been a turkey, 30 people would have “liked” the photo and it would have shifted down the newsfeed.

Not all cats are “kitties.” Truly feral cats can be destructive to domestic barn cat populations and to property.

I have no idea about the situation this cat was shot in. Suburbia? Or out in the rural wilderness like much of Texas is? Had the cat been a nuissence to it’s neighbors? It is sad that it turns out that it belonged to someone. Please use this sad example as a reason to tag and collar your pets.

I know my post may not be popular, but feral cats can be a true problem.[/QUOTE]

Putting a collar on an outdoor cat is risky as they are very susceptible to being caught on something and choke to death. Breakaway collars are avail, but get caught so often that they don’t last more than a few days.

[clint]

[QUOTE=goldenrow;8111962]
Hmm. I’m not sure how I feel about this one.

I do have a feral cat problem. And a racoon, skunk, opposum, woodchuck, mouse, and other random rodentia problem. They bring in diseases, crap all over my hay, arenas, and yard. They all howl outside my bedroom window and torment my dogs, who then also howl all night.

We could catch something every night if we put out a trap. Instead, we shoot any feral - meaning, without a tag - creature antogonizing my domestic critters. We generally choose a .22 to dispatch them, but with it being bow-turkey hunting season here, it is not out of the realm of possibility that a feral cat would be shot with a bow. For a cat, it would be a near instantaneous death. No different from being shot with a gun. I would not classify it as in-humane. Several of the vets at the clinic I patronize hunt deer, pheasants, turkeys, coyotes, etc. with various tools and none of them have a problem with it being in-humane.

The only issue of this story, is the target. If it had been a turkey, 30 people would have “liked” the photo and it would have shifted down the newsfeed.

Not all cats are “kitties.” Truly feral cats can be destructive to domestic barn cat populations and to property.

I have no idea about the situation this cat was shot in. Suburbia? Or out in the rural wilderness like much of Texas is? Had the cat been a nuissence to it’s neighbors? It is sad that it turns out that it belonged to someone. Please use this sad example as a reason to tag and collar your pets.

I know my post may not be popular, but feral cats can be a true problem.[/QUOTE]

To be honest, where I live we are over run with turkeys. They are fouling my watering troughs and traipsing through gardens and field. And even then, I avoid them when they are in the road and the last thing I would do is trap one, shoot it at close range through the head with an arrow, and hold it up as a trophy. I can’t think of any animals displayed dead, in such an unpleasant way, any one I know would “like”.

Not all cats are kitties, but with a basic respect for life, I see no justification whatsoever for cruelty.

[Gestalt]

[QUOTE=clint;8112163]
To be honest, where I live we are over run with turkeys. They are fouling my watering troughs and traipsing through gardens and field. And even then, I avoid them when they are in the road and the last thing I would do is trap one, shoot it at close range through the head with an arrow, and hold it up as a trophy. I can’t think of any animals displayed dead, in such an unpleasant way, any one I know would “like”.

Not all cats are kitties, but with a basic respect for life, I see no justification whatsoever for cruelty.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely. Dealing with feral cats in my neighborhood: when the local vet clinic is having a spay and neuter day I trap as many as I can and bring them in. It usually comes out to be about 6 or 7 cats a year. I figure that is just part of my contribution to animal welfare. Gandhi said " The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

That vet is not one I would use if she was in my area.

[Liberty]

Even more horrendous (hard to believe this could get worse, but it does) - look at that “arrow photo” again. That cat isn’t dead yet judging by the position of its legs. If it were dead, those legs would be hanging limply, especially evident in the front legs. I didn’t notice it until I read a comment just now in a Facebook post from the Austin County Sheriff’s office. Look for the comment with a screenshot in it to read what another vet said about the cat not being dead when the photo was taken:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=794621133955265&id=200322016718516

For non-Facebookers (although the link above should be visible to all), the Sheriff’s office said the following:
“Update: Sheriff’s investigators have been in contact with Kristen Lindsey and she will be interviewed at the Sheriff’s office, in the presence of her attorney, early this week.”

[inca]

OMG - I just looked at the picture again and it also appears that the right hind leg has been severed, which I guess is consistent with it being caught in a leg trap (which is NOT humane.) The Austin County Sheriff has posted that an interview with Ms. Lindsey (accompanied by her attorney) has been scheduled.

[Alex_and_Bodie_s_Mom]

Anyone else wonder what this sociopath does that she DOESN’T post on Facebook? Like when she’s at the vet clinic, alone with client’s pets?

My vet cried last year when we determined the road turtle I’d brought in - we estimated him to be about 30 years old - had to be put to sleep. This piece of crap does not deserve to share that title with the thousands of caring, dedicated, animal-loving vets in the world.

[GraceLikeRain]

The cat was gone ONE DAY. I find it very hard to believe that in a single day a domestic and well-loved cat created so much havoc that the only option was to shoot a cat. What about humane trapping? What about putting up signs to try and identify if the cat had a home? What about walking up to the freaking pet cat, picking it up, and taking it to her office to scan it for a microchip?! No excuse.

[In_The_Gate]

This is just awful. I can’t even imagine. Veterinarians have an obligation to save lives. When we have to end lives it must be done respectfully and humanely. This cat’s life didn’t need to end at all and it’s life was taken in a disrespectful and inhumane manner. :no:

Feral cats ARE an issue - that’s what TNR programs are for. Neuter and release cats to “breed” with blanks will do far more for your feral cat populations than killing cats.

[inca]

I am HORRIFIED by her actions but she was a large animal vet so it wasn’t like she was alone with people’s pets. She had been to my place several times and was actually nothing but professional. (I was truly shocked when I discovered this on Friday.) I am glad she had been fired and I will trust the proper authorities to handle the criminal investigation and the review of her license.

[tikihorse2]

I broke down crying when I watched the video of Tiger riding the Gator. I could only watch the first few minutes, it was so heart-wrenching. :’( Tiger must have been so loved, and now he’s gone at the hands of this… person.

The fact that she was professional is no surprise to me. Someone who’s capable of committing acts like this can show one face to the public and quite another when out of prying eyes. An ex of mine was like this. Polite in public, beat the hell out of me in private.

I just can’t get over the fact that a VET would do this. OTOH, there was a vet near my sister in the Darien/Delavan area who had a tremendous feral cat problem on her farm, yet refused to TNR the cats. She was surprised when my sister brought in the ferals on her property to be neutered, said, “Nature has ways of thinning the herd through disease, wild animals…”

That vet clinic shut down pretty quickly. I can’t help wondering if that vet is a sister of this woman?

Kim

[Vindicated]

[QUOTE=Paks;8111630]
Somehow I don’t think the person at the door was referring to the problems the vet clinic was now having (which is unfortunate). I don’t consider the internet to be the devil. it allows stupid people to brag openly about their misdeeds as Lindsey did and thus be exposed. Eight years ago I bet she would have posted on some board and 20 years ago she would have been bragging about it in a bar. The word would have gotten out. Maybe not as quickly or widely (the British press has picked up the story.) but it still would have gotten out.[/QUOTE]

For what it is worth, I said Facebook is the devil, not the internet.

[foggybok]

[QUOTE=goldenrow;8111962]
Hmm. I’m not sure how I feel about this one.

I do have a feral cat problem. And a racoon, skunk, opposum, woodchuck, mouse, and other random rodentia problem. They bring in diseases, crap all over my hay, arenas, and yard. They all howl outside my bedroom window and torment my dogs, who then also howl all night.

We could catch something every night if we put out a trap. Instead, we shoot any feral - meaning, without a tag - creature antogonizing my domestic critters. We generally choose a .22 to dispatch them, but with it being bow-turkey hunting season here, it is not out of the realm of possibility that a feral cat would be shot with a bow. For a cat, it would be a near instantaneous death. No different from being shot with a gun. I would not classify it as in-humane. Several of the vets at the clinic I patronize hunt deer, pheasants, turkeys, coyotes, etc. with various tools and none of them have a problem with it being in-humane.

The only issue of this story, is the target. If it had been a turkey, 30 people would have “liked” the photo and it would have shifted down the newsfeed.

Not all cats are “kitties.” Truly feral cats can be destructive to domestic barn cat populations and to property.

I have no idea about the situation this cat was shot in. Suburbia? Or out in the rural wilderness like much of Texas is? Had the cat been a nuissence to it’s neighbors? It is sad that it turns out that it belonged to someone. Please use this sad example as a reason to tag and collar your pets.

I know my post may not be popular, but feral cats can be a true problem.[/QUOTE]

Feral cats can be a problem, however shooting with an arrow is NOT an acceptable way for killing a feral cat. in this case the cat wasn’t even feral, but that point aside, as a veterinarian this person should uphold veterinary standards. Here is the AVMA guidelines for euthanasia… clearly death by arrow is not one of the acceptable methods.

https://www.avma.org/KB/Policies/Documents/euthanasia.pdf

One could argue that gunshot is acceptable and in certain circumstances it is, but this circumstance likely did not meet those criteria either…

She could have trapped the cat humanely and checked for a chip. Or more likely walked up to him and picked him up…he was a pet, not a feral… So many other ways to address this problem

The thing that really got me were her comments. As if she is some kind of hero for killing this poor cat. She is no hero. She is a very poor example for my profession. It hurts my heart to read her story.

[Pancakes]

I have 3 orange cats, and I’m a vet, and what this girl did is incomprehensible to me, plain and simple.

[jenm]

@pdq;8111429

I doubt she’ll have her license revolked, either. Hunting isn’t a justifiable reason to suspend a license. She’ll just have to lay low for a while, and move elsewhere - like California. And maybe go into research rather than general practice.

She sure as hell isn’t welcome in California!

[QUOTE=Vindicated;8111603]Let’s be realistic, this being blown out of proportion. Very sad for the couple that lost their kitty, the kitty that lost it’s life before it’s time, and for the vet clinic who made the mistake in hiring this woman.

However, how is this gang mentality not blowing it out of proportion?
The vet clinic is losing business, the idiot is most likely going to regreat this for the rest of her life. But…8 years ago-she would most likely never have even been fired. Because the general public would not have known about it.
[/QUOTE]

Blown out of proportion?! You are right in that 8 or 9 years ago she probably wouldn’t have been fired, however, the story may have gotten attention if she bragged about it and people found her blog in which she states she enjoys killing things.

Animal lovers being outraged by the senseless killing of this cat are well within their rights to express their disgust and hatred for this woman but I do feel badly the vet practice is experiencing some of the fall out. I would hardly call people being upset and calling for her to lose her vet license gang mentality.

One of the drawbacks of social media is the fact we are now subjected on a daily basis to the stupidity of many of our fellow Americans.

From her blog, bolding is mine:

Current interests: Living my days to the fullest, finding the meaning of happiness, killing things or trying to kill things (animals, a full glass of whiskey, hangovers, etc),

[Liberty]

Sounds to me like Ms. Cat Torturer may just get away with it, and her “interview” with the Sheriff’s office next week is “voluntary”.
From the Dallas News:
“Sheriff: Brenham vet can’t be charged with killing cat unless Facebook photo is authenticated.”
And:
“She didn’t want to talk to us at this time,” he said. “She said she was going to come in with her attorney. Hopefully early next week, we get something cracking. Hopefully this girl comes in. She may. She may not.”

Link to Dallas News article:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20150418-sheriff-brenham-vet-can-t-be-charged-with-killing-cat-unless-facebook-photo-is-authenticated.ece

So if the sheriff’s office can’t “authenticate” the photo, I guess this FB conversation doesn’t matter either:

Her mother (Becky Lindsey) posted:
“She was practicing in the yard. Jack and I were watching and saw it all go down.”
A few comments later, the mother posted: “I took the picture!”

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=673118622834680&set=p.673118622834680&type=1&theater