Vetting Horses

I don’t have an established threshhold. I pull most of my horses off the track and I am in the minority that doesn’t generally PPE. I have a pretty solid idea of what I’m looking for and what I’m not willing to gamble on. I have a good enough working relationship with the trainers I work with that they’ll share records if anything is available. I’ll pull ala carte rads if i feel the need to. I don’t pull many, but it’s a system that’s worked well for me. I wouldn’t reccommend it to most.

I do wish the conversation around PPE’s would change, and I think it’s starting to. There’s no pass/fail. It’s a baseline and should be used to determine whether or not the horse is suitable for your goals - and I think people need to be realistic with their goals. A little bit of ankle rounding or a cold, set osselet isn’t going to damper your Novice dreams. There are a lot of really nice, suitable horses out there that have some jewelry or require maintenance that are still really nice and suitable, but i digress.

If and when I get the chance to import something, I will be a little less of a cowboy and pull a more thorough PPE.

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This is a personal decision. If my client wants to ppe a 1k horse, I’m fine with that. To some people 1k is a lot of money and they’d like to know what they are getting into. Not everyone can deal with certain ailments and that’s ok.

Put me in the camp of ALWAYS getting a PPE without regard to price or age. (The one partial exception was one that I bought for $300 who was heading to an auction the next day, with a likely bad outcome, if I didn’t buy him THAT DAY, but I still had a “post purchase exam” by my own vet as soon as I got him home. The PPE cost more than the purchase price.)

No, a PPE is not a crystal ball, and doesn’t predict future soundness. I know horses with “good” PPEs who became pasture ornaments not long after, and I know horses with “bad” PPEs who safely competed at 3’7" into their 20s.

But it does give you a “mirror”, looking backwards to identify any pre-existing conditions, so you know where you are starting from.

Age makes a difference. With a young horse not yet in work, I want to know about any congenital conditions, or developmental problems. With a horse in its teens, I am more concerned with assessing the level of “wear and tear”. If it is horse I am expecting to resell, I will also focus on the things a prospective purchaser will care about.

If I am buying for myself, I don’t typically do X-rays unless my vet sees something that warrants further investigation.

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Just recently reminded of a no-PPE purchase by a friend …

Friend is a very experienced rider & trainer who has trained many horses and competed at high levels in the past, but is a lot more casual now. Decided to do an OTTB project horse, didn’t have high aspirations, just spend some time turning one into a nice riding horse for a better junior or ammy. Has her own barn so her costs are relatively low.

Her trusted contact who is a sort of casual-ish trainer/dealer in every discipline imaginable, very reputable, had one to look at, price < $5k. Super-cute nicely-shaped chestnut with chrome. 3 yo gelding in let-down. From the track & training but never raced, didn’t show speed or aptitude. Energetic, big personality, but sweet nature. Terrible manners but just untaught.

So, track > dealer > friend, no PPE’s along the way. Whatever self-inspection was done, the horse looked sound to them.

Condensed version, after months of transitioning and nutrition-ing, friend is longeing her horse in preparation to backing. But. The more she sees him move in different scenarios, the more she sees that he might have some issues. Might. Some weird head-tilts and neck carriage that comes and goes. Sometimes his steps are out-of-synch.

Lots of “did I see that?” moments, she asked me to look, other people to look … something is going on. Horse is using himself so oddly and it just isn’t something those of us not around rehab horses very often see horses do.

Canter is irregular and not good quality, even when loose, surprising in a well-made TB. Side reins create problematic behavior and physical responses. Friend decides to explore before attempting to back him.

None of this was apparent before my friend started conditioning the horse on the longe and really putting some work on him. He had been long out of work in let-down when she first saw him at her dealer-friend’s place.

Horse goes to very good vet. Lots of x-rays along with the thorough sort of exam that people do for a serious PPE.

Horse has a broken neck and apparently some cracks in some other bones. All appear to be long-standing and I think they said not healing properly. That is, he had all this when he first got to the dealer’s and when friend bought him. I do not know the gritty details, just that there were a multitude of problems in the bones all around the neck and shoulder area.

Horse eventually goes back to dealer in a reversal of the sale (I guess) to … I don’t know, graze at pasture? be treated? hopefully heal … anyway he passes out of friend’s life.

So that was a large amount of time & expense for a horse that would never have passed a PPE before he was purchased.

Some people can absolutely “vet” their own purchases. Some of us can’t do that well at all. :slight_smile:

And how often is a neck going to get caught, this might have been missed in a standard $5k horse PPE anyway…

Sad for your friend tho.

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