Videos of Soundness Issues/Gait deficits

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@skipollo

I’ll play!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLKDt3lGXL4

It looks like everyone else is doing this like a guessing game for you OP so I’ll do the same. There is more than one thing wrong, but you can just pick the obvious one if you want

Clues: Mid February 2020, he jogged sound on pavement prior to this video but became progressively more off once I got on him and was riding him on softer footing and on circles. The obvious problem was an acute injury, any others issues would be considered chronic and appear minor compared to the obvious problem. 12yo OTTB gelding.

Spoiler: he’s totally fine and sound now and has been since mid-April.

I feel like your clues are tricking me, haha (or, more likely, I’m just really overthinking this all). I can’t think of what issue would be worse on soft footing yet completely fine in two months. I’m seeing a left hind lameness that looks like it’s during both weight bearing and swing. I’m guessing stifle, but I have no guesses on the what.

I’m also seeing LF but that could easily just be referred from the hind, rather than anything there actually bothering him. Since you mention chronic issues I’m getting the feeling there my be something spinal (very specific, I know, haha) but I don’t think it’s fair to judge that with him so ouchie elsewhere.

He’s a cutie…glad you got him patched up…I can’t wait to find out how!

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@grandprixer

Close! First video was an abscess, RH.

Second video was LF, both collateral ligaments are torn and the suspensory.

Third was a bit evil. RF abscess, RH bruise, and ataxia from EPM.

Good try!

Well, looks like I need to redo my homework again. :winkgrin:

The first one doesn’t surprise me, especially now that I put it back in full speed (by the way…what’s with the storyteller voiceover?) He’s really avoiding that heel.

Second one, duh. I just got a little too fixated on the wrong leg, but I think it’s just landing a bit quick to take weight off the white one. I did notice something funny in the first turn that I couldn’t pinpoint, but now that you mention collateral ligament, that fits the bill.

Third one, EPM explains all that hind end weirdness. I was looking at it seeing so much stride inconsistency, but was thinking some of that was round pen distractedness. I also watched it too many times in slow motion, which I think made it look more off than ataxic. The RH still jumps out at me more than the RF, but that many legs and it’s fuzzy anyway.

Thank you for taking the time to “play”…this is exactly the kind of thing I was after!

@walkinthewalk Thanks for your story too. Not an issue I’ve seen before and maybe I never will, but good thing to stash in the “differential memory bank”.

[skipollo]

@Pally

I feel like your clues are tricking me, haha (or, more likely, I’m just really overthinking this all). I can’t think of what issue would be worse on soft footing yet completely fine in two months. I’m seeing a left hind lameness that looks like it’s during both weight bearing and swing. I’m guessing stifle, but I have no guesses on the what.

I’m also seeing LF but that could easily just be referred from the hind, rather than anything there actually bothering him. Since you mention chronic issues I’m getting the feeling there my be something spinal (very specific, I know, haha) but I don’t think it’s fair to judge that with him so ouchie elsewhere.

He’s a cutie…glad you got him patched up…I can’t wait to find out how!

All close! So the acute issue is his left hock. He had some sort of trauma out in the field resulting in a sequestrum and some very minor ligament damage. The sequestrum mostly reabsorbed, but we ended up removing the last piece of it. Minor surgery we did standing.

And for his back and stifles, yes. He’s arthritic in both stifles and hocks, and he compensated for that stiffness and pain with his SI…which over time makes his SI region sore as well. I put off his maintenance (injections) because I was dealing with yet ANOTHER issue, chronic Lyme and also poor angles behind which resulted in making his already existing soreness even worse.

Now we have all of those things under control, he’s sound post op (surgery was end of March), and he got his stifles done about a week ago. He already feels like a new horse. Hocks are next on the list in a few weeks, we didn’t want to do too many things all at once.

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@skipollo

All close! So the acute issue is his left hock. He had some sort of trauma out in the field resulting in a sequestrum and some very minor ligament damage. The sequestrum mostly reabsorbed, but we ended up removing the last piece of it. Minor surgery we did standing.

And for his back and stifles, yes. He’s arthritic in both stifles and hocks, and he compensated for that stiffness and pain with his SI…which over time makes his SI region sore as well. I put off his maintenance (injections) because I was dealing with yet ANOTHER issue, chronic Lyme and also poor angles behind which resulted in making his already existing soreness even worse.

Now we have all of those things under control, he’s sound post op (surgery was end of March), and he got his stifles done about a week ago. He already feels like a new horse. Hocks are next on the list in a few weeks, we didn’t want to do too many things all at once.

Sequestrum… explains the riddle. I have never dealt with one of those, so not familiar with the presentation/rehab. With the timeline you gave, I did even think “OCD surgery?” but IME the rehab is long enough too. And I swear I was this close to guessing (key word, lol) hock instead of stifle. At least I got the correct leg though :o

I think with regards to the body stuff, I felt I saw some bracing in the lumbar area and low neck, but hard to say whether that’s dealing with the acute or chronic stuff. Sounds like a little of both. In any case, sounds like you are headed in the right direction. Best of luck, and thanks for the contribution to this education.

[GoodTimes]

One of our local vet clinics here in Ontario has been doing a webinar series. They have one on lameness that is a good refresher. There are several cases which she plays the video on mute, and then plays it a second time with audio which gives information with regards to footfalls as well as a description.

http://www.mpequine.com/wednesdaywebinars