Wait - are we PADLOCKING stalls now?!

SoCal here. The horses that were locked in their stalls during the fire in the Valley a year back - died in their stalls. The horses at the TB layup barn near Del Mar last year - ran back into their barn and some died. Gate locks, stall locks are false security. Practiced thieves carry bolt cutters. Horses also die from smoke inhalation - in their stall or at large.
Sometimes you have time to evac in a fire. Sometimes you don’t. Sometimes you have to run so fast you leave with just the clothes on your back. We’ve evac’d horses, dogs, cats, chickens, goats - three times in 50 years. It is never fun. The worst is when you’re trying to load a horse with smoke, sirens and flashing lights around you. Vick’s in their nostrils helps.

What you do want to know is what the BOs plan is for evac. Trying to match up keys to different locks in an emergency sounds impossible to me. Seconds count. She should likely consider buying locks that she has a master to and just charging the owner for the lock or ban locks. You also want to look at the area around the facility to ensure there is good fire clearance and plenty of hoses and fire extinguishers accessible for all to use.

I would ask other owners why they’re locking their horse in its stall. It may be a case of so & so did it so I thought I would too.

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My horse isn’t in a locked stall, and it doesn’t have much to do with me, so I’m probably not going to move.

Its clean, beautiful, and to the above point, there are plenty of extinguishers around. All I care about!

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Or the BO could just invest in a set of bolt cutters.

OP might ask about that. I know her horse isn’t locked, but it would be smart to have in an emergency.

Honestly - yes. we are very prone to wild fires here in So. California. Most equestrians in the area have experienced something first hand and will again in the future. I think I would be more concerned about something like colic. That’s more likely to happen to any horse at any hour.

And as a sidenote, we too are along a riverbed and there are homeless nearby us as well. We’ve never had to worry about the homeless coming in to our facility though. Dunno.

Dunno the history.

Been there to give a horse (Big Bay Cooper) a ride to the stable I board at. Honestly, If I were boarding there I would consider using a chain and giving every ‘boarder’ the location of the key hiding place Magnetic key holder attached to the mare motel roof above the gate but below the pipe support (No one looks up unless they expect to find something - How many times have you looked up today?)

You are in CT. People don’t even lock their houses there. I remember when I didn’t need to lock my house So nice, So very nice.

This is a freaking GREAT idea and I already have one of the magnetic key thingies. This is my first public “mega barn” experience as an owner, so it does worry me a bit that it’s open access. Just tonight we had a family walk over from the restaurant next door to “feed the horses” and I really, really don’t need my mare dying because someone fed her leftover chicken nuggets :lol:

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FYI, your horse won’t die over eating a doggy bag’s worth of chicken nuggets.

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Total hyperbole :smiley:

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She doesn’t understand, she is in CT, they don’t even have locks on their doors.

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I knew a pony once that would eat pizza. Like, whole slices at a time. Cheese. Serious as a heart attack here. Lived behind some old man’s bar that’s long since gone out in Banksville NY.

Would a horse eat chicken nuggets? I recall some NatGeo special on feral ponies on some obscure island that ate the heads off nesting birds-- likely due to some nutritional deficiency. But the show was decades ago and my memory stinks… But poultry is poultry, right?

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I kept my OTTB event horse in Philadelphia for a semester. I put a sign on her stall that said (in English and Spanish) “I have allergies. Please don’t feed me.” The neighborhood kids played basketball right outside her paddock (and often climbed the fence to retrieve the ball from her field), so I’m sure she got the occasional snack there, although the barn owners had signs on the paddocks too.

LOL I actually thought about this after I posted. She probably wouldn’t because somehow she’s the pickiest starved horse on the planet, but I just liked the imagery :cool:

This sounds like an excellent bombproofing situation :lol:

One of my neighbors has a sign up on her gelding’s stall that is similar. I’ve made friends with those that have locks, and the more I think about it, the more it seems like a rock-or-a-hard-place type thing instead of straight insanity.

I know a horse who apparently ate a Big Mac once – and loved it. :eek: lol

My pony used to LOVE cheese-and-pickle sandwiches- with mayo!
He lived to a ripe old age

Funny about the chicken nuggets as the example – I had a horse that stole and ate some off a tack trunk. I think whoever left them there within reach of the horses didn’t think they’d like them. He loved fries too. And ice cream.

One of the boarders at the barn I board at, her horse ate an ENTIRE large pepperoni Pizza Hut pizza in like 1 minute flat :lol: She had set it on the hood of her truck and he decided to help himself. Her horse will literally eat anything if he thinks it is edible!

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I worked the So California fires. Yes the horses were padlocked in. I took photos of the horrible aftermath to show people who insist on locking their stall what can happen. The fire moved so fast that some of the ones not locked in still suffered horrific burns before they could be moved out. You don’t have time for locks keys or even bolt cutters.

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But what do they say Are the reason for the locks?

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I didn’t really question the reasoning because it seemed obvious- they want to make sure nobody else is taking the horse out but those they approve. A few working students, their trainer, BO has combo to locks in question. It’s their choice, and it works for them. I don’t have a beautiful leggy TB or WB, so I don’t think I have similar considerations- Mine doesn’t catch your eye the same way. I have asked and there aren’t any cases of horses being taken out without permission. More precaution I think.

But aren’t they turned out in paddocks in the daytime? How does that work. Its such a cultural difference for me. We have all horses(how ever valuable) turned out during the day time, and inside an unlocked stable during the night etc. We only have cameras as security. Never thought about anyone taking the horses…

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