Anyone have any response to my question in post #8?
TIA!
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How do the warmblood registries feel about unsound TB mares? I have a mare that came off the track in 2005 with 4 (yes 4!) fractures. All healed but one (sesamoid) but she has considerable fetlock arthritis in front so she has good days and bad. She has good conformation, is a good mover (considering) and has a stellar disposition. She’s bred to Ironman, who’s approved with numerous registries. Due to foal in late May. I’ve considered having her/foal inspected, but wonder if she’d be penalized for her unsoundness.[/QUOTE]
This is why warmblood mares are typically inspected as 3 year olds prior to their performance career. The inspectors need to give her a score for the quality of her gaits. An unsound mare typically moves irregular…and with far less power and elasticity in her gaits. That will impact her scores. An aged mare with some wear and tear on her legs will be forgiven somewhat for that if you can prove she worked for a living and had some success…BUT they cannot score what they cannot see. If she used to move an 8 but now moves a 5 due to arthritis…she will get a 5 on her scorecard.
At the moment I would say the KWPN is most accepting of TB mares.
You don’t need to have them inspected in fact, they won’t inspect them. They will issue full Foalbook papers to foals by approved stallions out of these uninspected TB mares.
The BWP will inspect TB mares, and mares with JC papers will be eligible for the Main Studbook. My TB mare was approved for the Main Studbook a couple years ago. Mares are judged on movement, elasticity, conformation and general impression. She scored just as high as several warmblood mares.
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At the moment I would say the KWPN is most accepting of TB mares.
You don’t need to have them inspected in fact, they won’t inspect them. They will issue full Foalbook papers to foals by approved stallions out of these uninspected TB mares.[/QUOTE]
I can’t tell you how little sense that makes to me. Not knocking TBs, just don’t understand this, in light of the requirements for WB mares.
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The BWP will inspect TB mares, and mares with JC papers will be eligible for the Main Studbook. My TB mare was approved for the Main Studbook a couple years ago. Mares are judged on movement, elasticity, conformation and general impression. She scored just as high as several warmblood mares.[/QUOTE]
I’m glad someone finally mentioned BWP. My experience was similar to yours. My JC mare was awarded a 70 at her BWP inspection in 2008. One of the Belgian inspectors later told me he wished they had access to quality American TB mares in Belgium. Because sometimes he will want to breed a refining mare with very straight legs, and this can be harder to find in Belgium.
Both my foals out of her were given First Premium status at their own inspections. An 81 for the 09 colt and a 79 for the '11 filly. Above 70 is Premuim and above 75 is First Premium.
If there’s a downside to BWP it’s that they’re very small in NA compared to some others. It makes it a little hard to get timely information and to figure out who to talk to and who is in charge from year-to-year.
But if you’re looking for a European registry that not only accepts and issues passports to good TB mares, but is enthusiastic about them, BWP is worth exploring.
Why would you present a mare that will wind up in the lower mare books? I sure wouldn’t. Maybe I’m being dense. In all my years of breeding - mares first, stallions later – I’d never present a mare that didn’t have a super shot for the MMB. Why do that?
Because the foals from these low book mares can work their way up into the main books.
Eventually, the offspring of pretty much anything with four legs is in the main books of ISR/AWR/RSPI
