Every time I see a photo of this mare I think it could pass as an auntie to the Paint gelding I just sold. Her foal has such a pretty face. And is the Quigmeister the father? My, he went to work fast, didn’t he!
yes…SOOOOooo fast. In 36 hours! Gelded immediately of course. He’s living in the front yard now. Learning how to load in the trailer and how to wear tack. Soon, verrrrry soon, he’ll begin lessons with me and my coach :).
Roslyn is the filly’s name, and her eyes are doe-big and beautiful. About the rest of her??? Jury’s out on that. Her dam is soo QH-y and that’s not my aesthetic. And i’m pretty sure Roslyn inherited her mama’s butt… lol. So, i’ll end up with another QH-type i think.
Hopefully you guys don’t mind if I add one. 2 yr old, wonder what color he’ll end up? Dark bay warmblood cross Dam. Unknown QH Sire.
Looks very grulla
100% bay. The first foal shed is usually pretty dark, even making some bay foals look black for s short while. The sire mayyyyyy be black but is likely very dark bay (what some might call black-bay, or seal brown, the very darkest shade) due to what looks like brown areas in at his flank and elbows.
black going gray. The white eyebrows in the first pic are very telling, and her body there is also showing the start of the graying process
If the color saturation is indicative of real life, all those yellow undertones says buckskin, just a darker shade, with sooty making him darker across some of his topline
hmmm… i don’t know. I’ve just kinda thought his eyebrows were scars. Interestingly, he hasn’t changed in the four years he’s been here. First photo was two days ago and second (running photo) was a couple weeks after he arrived And, he’s sixteen now. So if he was going white, he’d have progressed wouldn’t he have? But maybe you’re right…he does look a little bit lighter now… Darn. I don’t want another gray horse. I just worry so much about them… I have two already and going over them with my hands all the time drives me crazy!! The old Arabian mare is ‘sketchy’… so far nothing more than these little cyst things along her midsection that will just rub off…butstill.
Taking another look, he might actually be Roan. The white eyebrows disappeared. OR, he’s got heavy Rabicano ticking, but I can’t tell if he’s got white at his tailhead
Mom looks like a bay sabino with the high leg markings and the white “roaning” throughout her coat. Does she have belly spots?
i don’t think there is white at his tailhead. I’ll check him this evening to be sure. His mane and tail are still all black, i think. This is what he looked like when i bought him from BLM (and i think you can see why i grabbed him up;) ! He has kind of a fish-skin sheen…
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Just back from evening chores…had to wait for the rainstorm to end, but good news is it’s still light and i grabbed a few shots of Warlock. Above vid is four years ago, when he was “12” and these following pics are four years later. BLM called him “Black”.
Now…i think (?) the roans, the bay roans for sure, corn (scar) into their original coat color (sans roaning) and there are some truly uniquely marked ex-stallions coming off the range. So maybe Warlock here is a roan? Would he be a ‘blue roan’ if he is? One of those illusive blue roans???
When I bought my horse, he was barely 3 and just looked like a bay dun with some silver hairs in his otherwise black tail. By the time he was 6 he was very noticeably roan and his tail was almost completely silver. Even more interesting, he always had those little white “feathers” above his eyes just like your Warlock. So maybe Warlock is slowly roaning or gaining more white hairs in his body each year?
ok he very much looks Roan in those pics.
so do i get to call him a ‘blue roan’?
he’s a tough one, so I can’t say for sure.
His color doesn’t look like any of the blue roans I’ve seen in person,
too much of a brown/smoke tint . It looks like he has a tiny patch of white at the top of his tail. I love the eyebrows
His eyebrows are really different. I could easily pick him out of a line-up! LOL. He rubbed off a bit of tail because: Ticks. This particular horse rubs up against my divider panels in the barn and pushes them out of shape :(. All the other horses rub on trees. I wish he would do the same. Here’s a close-up of that spot you’re talking about. It’s a bald spot.
Though it’s not a white spot, i’m curious and forgot to ask: What would a white spot on tail actually mean anyway? (that he is not a roan?)
And…waaaa Why can’t i call him a blue roan? I don’t get to call Sinnerman a grulla, so you need to give me someTHING! lol. I’ve called him a ‘fish-skin black’ when people have asked what color he is. Guess it’s good enough…
It doesn’t mean he is, or isn’t Roan. But white at the tailhead, sometimes fairly subtle, sometimes VERY blatant, is a sign of Rabicano. Rabicano can put a little white ticking on, or a TON of it. The differences between Rabicano and Roan are that:
- Rabicano stops at the shoulders, Roan stops at the head, with very, very few exceptions. meaning, you can’t say “he’s not roan because he has white ticking on his head”. It’s just pretty rare.
- Roan has the strong inverted V on the front legs, like we talked about.
- Roan Summer and Winter coats are usually drastially different in terms of how much white there is. Rabicano may change, usually not to that extent.
Here’s an extreme expression of Rabicano
And rabicano on black
Since those are Arabians, you know they’re not Roan, as that doesn’t exist in the breed
you’ll just have to do some color testing to see what they truly are
That looks like a classic roan to me, with corn marks and a dark head. Looks black base so “blue.” True solid black is much less common than the bay range, especially in QH who are one of the main breeds that roan, so it makes sense that there are more bay roans, though some are so dark they could pass for black/blue.
My understanding is that the Hancock line of QH has a lot of roans, and breeders select for roans.
I also think “blue roan” is phenotype, and a very dark bay roan might not look any different than a rusty black roan. You’d need DNA test to know which it really was, and in a gelding it doesn’t matter so much.
If you know the herd from which they were gathered you could see if there was roan and/or dun stallions dominating the herd. Roan is dominant, as is grey, and as I recall dun can express strongly in the wild herds. As I recall too I see more roan in the wild horses than grey or rabicano. I’m not a genetic test but I would call Warlock a dark blue roan and the mare a bay roan, which the filly will tell the tale when she gets older.