What do you all do for cheap, temporary saddles?

In Canada, I’d keep an eye out for an older Childeric M. Mine needs a new seat, but I keep it around because it has worked for a surprising number of horses. In fact, I broke it out for months last winter. My horse was having some health issues including back pain, and he’s really sensitive in the shoulders. He was on the narrower side having lost topline. There’s really no way this saddle actually fits his withers, but he said it was the only thing that was acceptable for a while. I used a shim pad to lift the back. I think he liked that the shoulder area was so broken in and I’d cut the knee blocks out decades ago.

After some months, we could go back to his usual saddle. And now he’s built so much topline he needs a new saddle not in my collection (ugh).

I contemplated getting a second one since they are still relatively affordable, and I will eventually send it off for a new seat. But I won’t ever get rid of it.

Of course some older ones will be a little inflated in price since new ones (of everything) are more expensive and take longer to get, but the price point is still pretty reasonable compared to some other brands. And I think they tend to hold their stuffing a bit better than similar vintage Butets and especially Tads. I don’t think I’d buy a Tad outside of the US since most likely a well used one would need some refurbishment by Tad (in VA).

I have a high-wither GP Kent & Masters. As I understand, K&M and Thorowgood are made by the same company, with K&M being the all-leather version of the saddle.

I really love mine and would highly recommend the brand. One of the biggest selling points for me was the wool flocking with the changeable gullet, which makes them very adaptable. I think between a few gullets, a shim pad, and the option to adjust the flocking, you would have an option that may work for many horses.

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I second a childreic M. Plenty used ones here.

And an exselle debut.

Both tend to fit a wide number of horses

IME, the Thorowgood I tried left me feeling perched. I wanted to like it but returned it. My wintec saddles are more comfortable for me and they have always fit my horses. However, the interchangeable gullet will not make a saddle fit if the panel shape isn’t right for your horse. I was lucky to have two horses with the same shaped back, albeit in different widths.

Shimable pads are lifesavers for horses that are changing shape.

Treeless saddles are an option that’s not yet been discussed. I’ve had very good success with Freeform, Sensation and HM Vogue Saddles working well. My mare gets a bit fluffy when out of work (she had 8 weeks off after I broke my ankle) and I find riding her treeless (with a proper pad) to be an ideal way to get her back into shape and fitting into her regular treed saddles.

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Second this! I’ve gotten a few older Butets in good shape on Amazon for cheap in the past. They did the trick and sat beautifully on a couple of different lease horses until I settled on one horse and got a nicer saddle.

OMG, I miss my Courbette Stylist close contact. Got it new as a pony kid and rode in it long after I outgrew it – on a crazy-varied succession of horses and ponies. I sold it when I went on hiatus and couldn’t stand looking at gathering dust on the rack. Plus I needed cash, of course. Speaking of saved ebay searches, I watch for them and think every so often, I’d do something (for me) financially dumb and buy it just to have it for auld lang syne, if a medium tree (“Quarter Horse tree,” I remember being told it was sized) came along in the neighborhood of my arse size.

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About shim pads. Most pads have 4 pockets so you can boost up back or front. But a 6 pocket is way more useful. You can also fill in if the saddle bridges a little. Total Saddle Fit and LeMeiux make 6 pocket sheepskin shims. They are not that common.

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A Childeric Model M is definitely one French saddle I actually enjoy riding in, and I know I’ve seen them very reasonably priced. Just never bit the bullet/been actively looking at the time. Moral of this thread is I think I should always be at least semi-actively looking and building the small saddle army. (What do I expect hanging out with the enabler gang of COTH. Thanks for the support :grin:)

But truly, I think that’s largely what spurred this. I haven’t actively saddle shopped in years. I had 2 saddles (plus a western) and even tried to “retire” from horses a couple years ago (clearly that panned out well :crazy_face:) Then suddenly, I found myself wanting something NOW for the horse under me and not finding it.

My panic was probably undue. I rode yesterday in the ancient wide Crump… it’s not as far off as it was last summer and I’m sure padding up will be acceptable while I keep my eyes (patiently) open for the next candidate.

Good to know… haven’t seen a 6-pocket English pad in person/didn’t really know they existed.

Any other particular shim pad recommendations are welcome - there’s still time to amend the Christmas list!

I never rode in one of these but did own one briefly. Back in those days I’m reminiscing about when shipping was cheap and our dollar was ok, I bought one on eBay for $50 or so. It didn’t look so hot but I conditioned it back to life and resold for a little profit. I had fun petting it and admiring it, but it was really too small for me so not worth keeping. If you stumble across one at that price though, I say do it!

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I have the pro lite shim pad with six pockets. It’s been very useful.

Oh hey @Pally if you want a Crump Prix de Saute in a medium tree, I have your saddle! :rofl: My dad made me get it out of storage–it was his saddle; why it became my problem and I had to schlep it across the US I’ll never know. I rode in one in my pony years, long gone now. My dad never really rode, and so it’s like new because it has spent most decades in the house or climate controlled storage. But it’s an 18" and I am not. And I have 4 saddles of my own already with #5 ordered thanks to my horse now measuring medium-wide. I don’t want to give it away (feels wrong to do that) but it would be very cheap. I don’t know if it’s complicated or expensive to ship to Canada.

When I was in the hunt for a new saddle, I bought a Wintec Pro Jump and was very surprised at how balanced it was. It worked for my tough fit horse until I had something made for him. Mine has been sitting in my tack room under 10-12 saddle pads for a few years. I guess I ought to do something with it to free up the space. :smile:

I just never sell my old saddles even when I move on to different ones. So I have a collection of ones with different shapes to choose from when I need to use something as a patch. I also have every shim pad known to man. It helps that I mainly own wool flocked British saddles that can be shimmed up/reflocked and that don’t have really extreme shapes to begin with.

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Enabler, lol!
A $50 find? That’s what I dream about. There’s a couple saddles actually, some pricier and fancier than an old Stylist, that I harbor the fantasy of stumbling upon – like the urban legend about the mint sportscar sitting in a little old lady’s shed somewhere.
No matter what the market is like, I’ll still plug a generic “English saddle” search term into ebay in hope…

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Keep your eyes open for community tack sales like those organized by 4H association or Pony Club.

And that is how I ended up with a tackroom full of saddles!

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That’s how I end up with a tack room full of everything! (Anyone want some pony tack :rofl:?)

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And that’s how I end up with a “tack store” in my HOUSE :wink:

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I second the older Stübben suggestions (those seriously can’t be beat!). I own almost exclusively older saddles, and have had great luck with my Courbette Husars (which are very similar to the old Stübben Siegfrieds, and IIRC were even made in the same two factories Stübben used), '90s model Crosby Sovereign, and '90s RD Collegiate Graduate (surprisingly nice for the price point it originally retailed at, and much better quality than the current Collegiates IMO). I’ve used one of the Courbettes and the Collegiate on quite a few different horses and find them to be decently versatile. I’ve had good luck with these two, as when one hasn’t fit something, the other usually has, at least well enough to use temporarily and sometimes with the aid of an appropriate half pad if needed.

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