In most states this is treated the same as a home or apartment renter who refuses to leave: You have to evict them through the court system.
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This is very bad advice for at least these 2 reasons:
If the owner wants to remove horse, as has been requested, no access to it.
If horse becomes in need of Veterinary attention, no access is possible.[/QUOTE]
Why? Locking the arena and the tack room don’t prevent access to the horse.
OP has indicated that “tack” consists of one brush and a halter.
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I don’t have it in front of me but I think there is a clause in my boarding contract that says either party can terminate agreement with 30 days notice. This gives barn owner the right to evict for cause. It also allows for eviction/ stableman’s lien for non-payment.[/QUOTE]
If either party can terminate with 30 days notice, that means the BO and the boarder can terminate withOUT cause. All they have to do is give 30 days notice.
[QUOTE=sdlbredfan;8547254]
This is very bad advice for at least these 2 reasons:
If the owner wants to remove horse, as has been requested, no access to it.
If horse becomes in need of Veterinary attention, no access is possible.[/QUOTE]
Sure, if the horse is being housed in the arena and/or tack room.
ETA: J/K, it’s been addressed!
[QUOTE=sdlbredfan;8547255]
This is a very creative solution.
Oops, sorry, just saw that is not a viable option.
The next best thing would be for the BO, and/or the self care people to assist the cray cray absentee owner in finding another place. If that is not an option, then BO will need to do the eviction, or stableholder lien, seize horse, etc.[/QUOTE]
We have. I have given BO about 5 diff stables (and one time when I saw the HO I also passed on suggestions) to pass along - which she has.
At any rate, HO was out this afternoon and told BO she was looking at a place tomorrow. Nothing like waiting til the last minute.
I am sorry for her - I surely would not want to be in her shoes - but from what anyone can see she’s created this mess all on her own.
I just hope whatever happens ends up being better for the horse.
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Consult / hire an attorney to get an eviction letter to boarder would be first step here.[/QUOTE]
This.
Start a naked yoga class. In front of her stall. Class is daily, starting about 10 minutes before she usually shows up.
I kid, I kid. :lol:
Glad to hear she is finally looking to move on.
I am going to take another path here, and suggest that if the horse owner has or has had a substance abuse problem, then what she may really be looking for is someone to enable her to continue on as she has in the past, at little or no increased cost in money or labor to herself. Once she finds that person, she will attempt to play them like a fiddle. The BO and the horse owner need to come to the end of the road on this, and the rest of you need to stay out of it, or by default, you will become her enablers. You do all of her work, she continues on as before. Should the BO and her boarder not be able to sort this out, and things go south for the horse, report the owner and the horse in question to the AC officer/humane society/ASPCA etc. You may even need to have a talk with the horse owner and let her know this is what is exactly what the boarders are going to do in order to get her off the dime and moved out. Do not become an enabler.
I was thinking that the mere idea of doubling the board would send her flying to find another place.
Sounds like the situation is about to resolve for the better.
[QUOTE=Chief2;8548518]
I am going to take another path here, and suggest that if the horse owner has or has had a substance abuse problem, then what she may really be looking for is someone to enable her to continue on as she has in the past, at little or no increased cost in money or labor to herself. Once she finds that person, she will attempt to play them like a fiddle. The BO and the horse owner need to come to the end of the road on this, and the rest of you need to stay out of it, or by default, you will become her enablers. You do all of her work, she continues on as before. Should the BO and her boarder not be able to sort this out, and things go south for the horse, report the owner and the horse in question to the AC officer/humane society/ASPCA etc. You may even need to have a talk with the horse owner and let her know this is what is exactly what the boarders are going to do in order to get her off the dime and moved out. Do not become an enabler.[/QUOTE]
Where did substance abuse come in to this? Never mentioned. OP considered and rejected the idea of charging double board, as too much stress on OP. Their next move would be a legal move but HO has indicated she is leaving.
BO and OP are long past the Pavement Ends sign as far as the HO goes.
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She brought horse out, one brush, one halter. No tack has ever shown up. She’s been on him one time since he came (bareback). Farrier has never been out, and his feet are overdue and then some.
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I feel sorry for him - we all do - but none of us want to be responsible for him because the owner is so irresponsible that we don’t want to be hit with liability for anything that arises, that we take care of.
I will pass along the ‘get a lawyer’ suggestion to my BO.[/QUOTE]
I hope the HO finds another place and moves him. If not…
You have another ‘tough love’ option. Tell HO that if she does not move the horse and does not get him hoof care immediately, you will report her to Animal Control for willful neglect. Give her a clear date. Then if she doesn’t have show movement on both fronts by that date, report her without apologies or guilt.
AC won’t act immediately unless the horse is completely elf toed. If she doesn’t get this resolved soon though, the added pressure might help get her motivated to do so.
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Why? Locking the arena and the tack room don’t prevent access to the horse.
OP has indicated that “tack” consists of one brush and a halter.[/QUOTE]
Please note that I edited to apologize for having misunderstood.
My post number #17, as quoted above in original form but subsequently updated, now sats:
"This is very bad advice for at least these 2 reasons:
If the owner wants to remove horse, as has been requested, no access to it.
If horse becomes in need of Veterinary attention, no access is possible.
Edited to add, oops, I mis-read that. I thought it said lock the pasture gate too. Sorry.
Last edited by sdlbredfan; Feb. 25, 2016 at 08:40 PM."
What do you do when a boarder refuses to leave?? UPDATE - SHE LEFT!!
Got out there at lunchtime and the horse and his things were gone.
Over with, I guess. Have no idea where she went.
Phew…
Good news !
I hope everyone is happy including the ‘departed boarder and horse’ wherever they have landed ~
Canter on ~
Great news! I’m with phew.
Have you been living with me OP?
Currently going through the same. Gave 4 weeks notice, as the HO was constantly late on board.
HO said 4 weeks wasn’t enough so I gave them an extra month, to be out March 1st, gave them plenty of time.
Had to chase them to get their horses feet done. Offered FREE trailering to get them off my property so I didn’t have to deal with it anymore.
The horse is a saint, but I can’t continue to watch the neglect of this horse on my property.
Told owner that the only day I can trailer was this Sunday, they said that wouldn’t work only Monday or Tuesday. Told them thats not possible as I work and I can’t those evenings.
No word from them, no plan, have no idea what they are doing. They did find a barn but hasn’t discussed trailering since Friday.
The older I get the more it never ceases to amaze me how irresponsible people are with animals.
I’m a very long ways from perfect but my horse (and other critters) get dinner before I do and medical attention before I do too!
She’s gone now… so I’m out of it.