What happenned to Team USA

So how much bonus do we think the Captain will haul in for THESE Games? Heh heh. :cool:

He’s been publicly bitching in the British press about the lack of US depth in both riders and horses. But look what got sent to the Pan Am Games and as the replacement horse and rider for these Olympics.

Hey gang, I know relatively little about cross-country courses. Borrowing from showjumping, was this course designed as a “power” course that favors massive jumping efforts over good galloping speed? Just wondering if that’s affecting the results.

Both Butts Leon and Ingrid Klimke are branded Hanoverian, sponsored by the Hanoverian Verband, and are 31/32s TB. I think more TB than even Headley Britannia.

Um, both of the US OTTBs blew up XC, didn’t they?

Didn’t see the US OTTBs…which horses??? I couldn’t stay awake to watch the entire thing and I came in late…so unless Becky was riding one, I missed both of them.

I don’t follow eventing on a regular basis, so I admit that I am ignorant as to what is going on.

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Ouch. Poor Ingrid. I wonder where she was branded - on the butt cheeks? That’s gotta hurt when she sits in the saddle…

I think the horse’s name is Marius; Hinrich Romeike is the rider. I loved his xc - so smooth.

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I think the horse’s name is Marius; Hinrich Romeike is the rider. I loved his xc - so smooth.[/QUOTE]

LOL!! !I think youre right. That horse was just amazing.

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Didn’t see the US OTTBs…which horses??? I couldn’t stay awake to watch the entire thing and I came in late…so unless Becky was riding one, I missed both of them.

I don’t follow eventing on a regular basis, so I admit that I am ignorant as to what is going on.

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Comet is an OTTB as is Poggio

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Both Butts Leon and Ingrid Klimke are branded Hanoverian, sponsored by the Hanoverian Verband, and are 31/32s TB. I think more TB than even Headley Britannia.

Um, both of the US OTTBs blew up XC, didn’t they?[/QUOTE]

Well, remember, that was part of the brouhaha about changing the format: No roads & tracks, no steeplechase, both of which things (including them, I mean) worked to the TB’s advantage. The new format is def designed for warmbloods as opposed to TBs. There was a lot written about just that motive behind the format change when it happened, that that’s why the Europeans went for it - it is MUCH more suited to their type of warmblood horse than to a TB.

Do you think the fact that xc in Hong Kong was shortened by 1/3 had anything to do with it this time?

The irony of course is that the Germans are leading with horses that are 95% TB (albeit from 5 generations of select sporthorse breeding), which is hardly “their type of warmblood horse”.

Btw, the composition of the US team is no different that pre short format Olympics, i.e several OTTBs and several ISHs or BSHs.
The Brits are still riding ISHs. The Aussies and Kiwis have some of their own homebreds and a few they picked up in GB and Ire.
The only difference I see is that none of the ISHs are sired by a TB stallion, unlike in the past. But that has probably more to do with the rise of ISH stallions in Irish breeding as a stallions in their own right, which reflects a more developed approach to SH breeding in the country.

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I think the horse’s name is Marius; Hinrich Romeike is the rider. I loved his xc - so smooth.[/QUOTE]

Even better, the rider is an amateur with a “day job” who rides the horse when he gets home from work every day. I believe he is a dentist.

A horse called Marius

which is one of the main reasons I am hoping he showjumps clean to keep a medal! His horse Marius is wonderful, and he sounds like the nicest fellow. Plus, wasn’t he the one from the Athen’s German Gold Medal team who refused to give back his medal because it meant so much to him?

Its weird, because I don’t really want the German team to win on principle, because as others have said, the sport has conveniently been changed to benefit them… but on the other hand I want both Hinrich and Ingrid to do well. Ingrid has been the bridesmaid far too often!

Well, most of the good warmbloods do have a lot of TB blood, but you have to admit when you saw the German horses in eventing dressage, no matter what their blood, some of them were super-warmblood looking compared to a TB, right?

the Irony is…

ironically, sh at the next WEG the Irish will have an American bredTB, and the the US will have ISHs!:winkgrin:

Cool! I’ll root extra for the Irish. I LOVE TBs.

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Even better, the rider is an amateur with a “day job” who rides the horse when he gets home from work every day. I believe he is a dentist.[/QUOTE]

No kidding??? I was amazed at how quietly he rode that horse through country.

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Well, most of the good warmbloods do have a lot of TB blood, but you have to admit when you saw the German horses in eventing dressage, no matter what their blood, some of them were super-warmblood looking compared to a TB, right?[/QUOTE]j

I AM a proud owner of an English TB ex event horse. He’s 24 now. He was one of Buck Davidson’s mounts back in the mid 90s…I didn’t know any of this when I bought him. Now he’s my sweet dressage star. He’s one heck of a horse.

I also have a Hanoverian/TB cross

So as you can see I am PRO TBs. :yes:

AHHHH, just saw the “I’m in love with a Dentist” thread…guess I wasn’t the only one amazed by those two.

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Both Butts Leon and Ingrid Klimke are branded Hanoverian, sponsored by the Hanoverian Verband, and are 31/32s TB. [/QUOTE]

I am assuming you are referring to the horses, not the riders, but do you have a link to their pedigrees? I thought the Verband requires that horses be at least 50% Hanoverian to be registered Hanoverian (and both sire and dam must be approved for breeding with the registry).

FRH Butts Abraxxas v. Heraldik xx/Kronenkranich xx

that is to say-- Abraxxas is by Heralkdik xx, a Thoroughbred approved by the Hanoverian Verband, out of a mare whose dam sire is Kronenkranich xx, yet another TB apporoved by the German Hanoverian Verband.

        http://www.hannoveraner.com/102.html

Leon is a similar cross.

Germans like TBs just fine–most especially when they have BRED them

LOL

or approved them, like the two above and Lauries Crusador xx.

LOL