What is the real risk to a show mare/broodmare?

The “birthplace” of ET. http://www.nandivet.com/

[QUOTE=Laurierace;7264658]
The “birthplace” of ET. http://www.nandivet.com/[/QUOTE]

oh goodie, thank you. Anyone know their cost? Ill call them and New Bolton tomorrow

wow, they have a really poor rep on coth. Anyone else doing ET’s?

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I don’t know that New Bolton would admit a mare that was high risk only because the owner was scared! There are lots of good TB farms in that area of PA.[/QUOTE]

About half of our high risk pregnancy admits were for that very reason. Not just equines, either. People would send high-dollar show animals of all types so they had the option of a c-section if need be.

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About half of our high risk pregnancy admits were for that very reason. Not just equines, either. People would send high-dollar show animals of all types so they had the option of a c-section if need be.[/QUOTE]

thanks, good to know. I love NBC and their staff!

WOW!!! 3k. I paid $400ish plus board to have my vet foal out my mare at his house. They were breeders too, so they had a good set-up. She stayed there for two weeks post foaling (I really don’t remember what board was anymore, but it was very, very reasonable).

My old BO, who has since moved, used to charge $300 + board to foal a mare (and you paid all additional costs on top…this was for the actual event). She has foaled dozens. That was probably 6 years ago.

Granted, neither were set up to do an immediate C-section at home. I don’t know anyone who has done a C-section actually. I wonder how often one is needed? Just curious, I’m not trying to diminish the fact that if you are the one in X___ that it would be awful. If you are worried do ET!

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About half of our high risk pregnancy admits were for that very reason. Not just equines, either. People would send high-dollar show animals of all types so they had the option of a c-section if need be.[/QUOTE]
Were they actually high risk though?

When I worked on Ramsey we has a mare kittens first that had scheduled c sections for delivery. She had broken a hip in her younger years so foaling normally would have been difficult if not impossible. When working for rood and riddle I saw several - the majority of which were dystocias. Several as a result of too large a foal. Became hip or shoulder locked. A few were sadly a last ditch effort on a dying mare or literally doing it as she was euthanized. I can only remember one being a result of a breech foal. Thankfully not that common.

Part of the reason we settled where we did was the close proximity to rood and riddle.should the need arise or we run into real trouble. In this area I have found foaling rates of 100-500 for a made depending on level of farm with actual board and vet charges on top of that.

Moving mares around, changing farms, etc. prior to foaling puts her more at risk than anything. If you really want this farm to foal her out, do NOT wait until she is about to pop to move her. Have her there as early as possible. That will get expensive.

When I started foaling my mares at another farm, I sent them to the other farm about 6 weeks before they were due to foal. Four weeks ahead seems to be the standard for allowing the mare to develop immunities to the new environment.

Over the years I have had a red bag delivery that went well because I was right there to step in, a dystocia (one front leg bent at the carpus) that again was a pretty easy fix, vulva tears from a large foals (easy fix), lost a foal to head trauma at a month old (that was a hard one) to this year my mare had a 360 degree colonic torsion 24hrs after foaling. Thankfully, and ironically, she was already at the vet school and on the surgery table ASAP. I’ve had foals that had angular limb issues that needed to be addressed as they age, mild GI colic (suspect ulcers), umbilical infections, mild meconium impaction…and a bunch of other stuff I can’t recall right now:)

Breeding is not for the faint of heart. Thankfully most things can be managed, but they usually entail a lot of sweat equity, money and reduce your life span by a few weeks (let alone lost sleep).

If I was as worried as you, and most of the time I am, I would do ET. I would also try to have her foal out at a place with experience. If you decide to do it at home make sure you set up good monitoring. I use cameras hooked up to MareStare, milk test strips AND Foal Alert!! And I STILL missed a foaling when I went to take a 20 minute shower at 6pm one night…go figure.

However, when things go well the rewards are huge. So at least there is a great payout and the odds are in your favor.

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Were they actually high risk though?[/QUOTE]

Not all of them. Many were valuable and the owners were nervous and just wanted to be safe.

Regardless, the OP can find a quality foaling barn in PA for much less than $3K or what NBC would charge.

The risk is enough to have convinced not to breed my mare unless ET becomes a viable option.

If you decide to use your mare - send her to the clinic. The only one I foal at home any more is the “I’ve had four babies, I know what I’m doing, and I hate moving off my farm!” Other than her, they go to the clinic ever since I lost a very valuable baby when she was born and never took a breathe. Vet was 15 minutes away and and stayed with me on the phone the whole time, and even though I was told there was nothing a vet could have done either I will always wonder. Also had a pretty bad dystocia with another mare - I much prefer to get a call and arrive in time to see healthy baby pop out and cheer from the sidelines :slight_smile: :slight_smile: