Hmmm. That’s a bummer. Hello, pine sol !
I have friends who use the pine sol but I have never liked its smell.
I spray my horses in their stalls with tritec. It’s 50$ a gallon at doctors foster and smith this year, about 24$ less than it cost at tractor supply co.
Spraying the horse in the stall works. It kills the flies and skeeters and gnats. I spray my horses’ hooves also, since it helps keep ants from getting on them when they go out in the pasture.
I still have to spray once a day, but once a day kills anything that lights on the horses or in their stalls where the spray hits. Hopefully no honey bees are attracted to my 2 horses. The horses do not smell or look like flowers.
ETA: I worry about the butterflies and ladybugs as well as the honeybees.
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So everything needs to be equal parts of the pine sol, vinigar, and water? What kind of vinigar? Do you still add dawn dish soap? how long does it normally last?
I use this on horses and stalls.
One gallon container.
1/2 gallon vinegar
1cup Avon Skin so Soft
healthy squirt of Dawn
complete filling the container with water.
You probably don’t need the SOS in the stall, I am not sure how much deterring it does, although I can use in straight on ears and keep flies away.
I may try the Pine Sol method for the stall and save the Skin So Soft for the horse.
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It can’t work that great if you have to reapply 30 times per day.[/QUOTE]
Lol, looks like I misspoke a year ago. We use it on 30+ horses per day.
I can’t see how it actually works very well. A couple of years ago I had a horse in QT with strangles and I saturated his stall daily with a straight solution of pine sol and it did nothing for the flies and after a while it started to make me nauseous - but that could have been me being so sick of scrubbing and sanitizing for 8 weeks. That was the worst summer, ever :(.
But anyway, it didn’t stop the flies from congregating in his stall one bit. I eventually got something from the vet - can’t recall the name now but if I even get a whiff of that stuff now I feel like puking.
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The active ingredient is Imidacloprid:
Use of Common Pesticide, Imidacloprid, Linked to Bee Colony Collapse[/QUOTE]
I was unaware of the link to CCD. However I only use it inside the barn.
It works on stable and house flies, not biting flies
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So everything needs to be equal parts of the pine sol, vinigar, and water? What kind of vinigar? Do you still add dawn dish soap? how long does it normally last?[/QUOTE]
I do equal parts Pine Sol, Apple Cider Vinegar, and Water. Then I top it off with few splashes (drops) of Dawn dish detergent. I spray every morning, and my horses are outside 24/7 with access to a run-in shed. I reapply after hosing or before riding.
I’d like to ask BO about trying the PineSol/vinegar/water mix, but she has LOVELY wood interior in the barn. Will it harm the wood/finish or leave a residue? Thanks!
I tried it last night and well I didn’t put in a few drops of dawn, more like a few squirts…
The flies didn’t appear to appreciate the misting they got. kind of walked around like they were drunk for a few minutes then fell over.
It’s funny to see my old thread resurrected!
The proportions are: 1 part real Pine Sol (not the grocery store knock-off brand), 1 part white vinegar, 1 part water. No need to add Dawn. For the flies we have around our stable, it works. I spray it up towards the top of the walls where the flies roost, around the window frames and door frames. I also take down the water buckets and spray some above where they usually hang. It lasts for about 5-6 days, then I have to spray again. A friend of mine is using it on her horse, and says it is working well.
Okay…I’m trying this in these ratios tonight. The full strength pine cleaner knock off didn’t do squat!
WTH, I’ll give it a try - certainly cheap enough ingredients to be worth the experiment.
I’ll be skipping the Dawn liquid though.
PSA:
Many years ago a Chiro told me to blister Vern’s stifle overnight with Palmolive dishwashing liquid put on straight then left & rinsed off the following day. Seemed harmless enough so…
When I hosed him off the next day it took the hair clean off him :eek:
Poor guy had a big nekkid spot on his stifle for weeks! :no:
Soap is caustic. I remember in the old days, my family would be watching the ads on TV for Ivory soap - 100 percent pure, they would say! “Yeah,” laughed my father (a scientist). “Pure what? Pure lye! That’s what pure soap would be!” At least that’s what I remember, I was a kid at the time. Anyway, some soaps can be pretty caustic, so just keep that in mind.
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Soap is caustic. I remember in the old days, my family would be watching the ads on TV for Ivory soap - 100 percent pure, they would say! “Yeah,” laughed my father (a scientist). “Pure what? Pure lye! That’s what pure soap would be!” At least that’s what I remember, I was a kid at the time. Anyway, some soaps can be pretty caustic, so just keep that in mind.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, you’re dad was wrong. Soap is not caustic. Lye is caustic, but PROPERLY made soap has no lye in it after sopanofication. If there is still lye in the end product than it isn’t soap.
The elementary chemistry, in proper proportions: Sodium hydroxide + water + fat = soap. Can’t make soap any other way. Soap does not equal lye. Pure lye would be, well, pure lye. Pure soap, is pure soap…when made correctly ;).
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[QUOTE=2DogsFarm;6399780]
WTH, I’ll give it a try - certainly cheap enough ingredients to be worth the experiment.
I’ll be skipping the Dawn liquid though.
PSA:
Many years ago a Chiro told me to blister Vern’s stifle overnight with Palmolive dishwashing liquid put on straight then left & rinsed off the following day. Seemed harmless enough so…
When I hosed him off the next day it took the hair clean off him :eek:
Poor guy had a big nekkid spot on his stifle for weeks! :no:[/QUOTE]
Umm do what to his stifle? and what was the end result supposed to be?
Ive been using Dawn for a few years, used it to scrub Spring’s itchy flaky legs, let soak for 10-20 minutes then rinse off. Cures the gunk without affecting the skin PH too much. and if the PH is affected simply spritz with ACV and rub in and leave.
Someone at the barn has started washing her horses with Dawn. She figures if it works for the wildlife bird and seal rescues, it should work for the horses. So far, so good.
Yeah, I tried that way to begin with since I had the cheapo knock off stuff under the sink. No go. The real stuff must actually have pine oil in it or something. Flies hate pine trees. Good luck!
I don’t know. Better ask the BO first, or try it on an extra test piece if she has one kicking around. I am working with old oak stalls.
Dawn is a terrific surfactant, which is why it cuts grease so well and is why wildlife groups use it on oil-soaked birds. As a vet tech, it’s what we use on animals that have been overdosed with pyretherin/pymetherin flea and tick spot-on treatments. (We interrupt this program for a vet tech rant: when you see the $h!t at Wal-Mart with a silhouette of a cat and a red circle and slash through it, don’t freaking use it on your cat!).
Because it is such a good surfactant, I would steer away from it as a daily or regular bathing tool, because it will strip out all the oils from your animal’s skin.
