I think until she has scores confirmed at USDF recognized shows everything $$ wise is just guessing. I’ve always found schooling shows to be way more generous with scores. I usually end up mentally subtracting 10 points off my schooling test, to just stay based in reality.
Seriously!?!? Lightly started OTTBs are going for $6k+. Link me a similar horse (young, sound, sane, pretty, will vet) as OP for 20k in a 90 mile radius from dutchess county NY and I’ll show up with my trailer and buy 2.
That’s a lot of what we are doing - lots of flexion and lateral work and transitions.
But what are small QH going for? OTTB are being bought for jumper and eventers prospects, and low level hunters.
Good to hear! Just don’t get stuck on the idea your horse is really confirmed 3rd level doing 4th. Unless I see stunning video to convince me otherwise I’m going to say you have a very pretty First Level horse with athletic ability for some of the moves especially those that overlap with QH talents. QH learn flying changes very early on, though not collected changes or counter canter. They can spin and sidepass on a loose rein. They are actually fantastic horses but you’re going to have the same journey towards self carriage and collection and correct contact as on any horse.
Not remotely the same horse, which is the answer to your question. If this horse was 16.2, bay, gelding, and jumps, the price wouldn’t be $20k. However we are talking about 15.1 “off breed.” Completely different market.
You can pick up a small QH at any number of dealers for the price you stated. I know of big, bay, unraced TBs for $15k that aren’t selling.
Not one built level and schooling 3rd level
If she vets and an average amateur can take her in the ring and score in the 60s at a recognized show at first level with potential to do second and third relatively soon I think mid-5s is reasonable. But I think having a USEF record is crucial. Obviously there will be some people who won’t even look at a 15.1/QH/mare but there are others for whom a horse like this is almost priceless because they are so hard to find right now in this area.
pay to have an insurance evaluation on the horse, that would be a current value
The horse is 5. A flying change does not a 3rd level horse make, but even so, the price offered up was $6k for an OTTB and you can certainly buy a quite broke ranch qh for that.
Id list at 25-30k. Yes you can get 5 year olds to “third” and might be able to get some low 60 scores and muscle them through a test but then that 5-6 year old year there’s a lot more strengthening work to be done and correcting work to move on to 4th.
But if youre selling for the ammy friendly and “has the change (whether its green or late)” 25-30k will sell with excellent video.
Around here safe, sound, attractive, and goes on bit at WTC is probably $30k. Higher for a warmblood, lower for a non-traditional dressage breed like QH.
For offbreed the market is going to be smaller though at mid-5s. I think low-mid potentially, if you hypothetically wanted to market competitively.
(full disclosure, this winter I paid 10k for a fairly low milage 10yo, 15.1 appendix mare who was confirmed 1st in the upper 60s/low 70s, meter jumpers, and novice eventing - people thought I got a good but not super-awesome-amazing deal in Region 1)
i have a really cute 6yo buckskin with a good WTC, good on trails, sound and sane and willing. My coach wants him. The girls at the barn where i train want him too. i didn’t choose him, my BFF did so she could come and ride, but she doesn’t. I take him to dressage lessons two times a month. He’s doing nicely, and my plan is to go western dressage with him because he LOOKS so western. Anyhoo…coach told me i could easily sell him for 50k. BUT lol, he’s adopted from Longmeadow so contract does not allow him to get sold. But omgosh…50k is pretty darn alluring.
I’ve never heard of anyone paying anything close to 50k for an ex-racing western dressage horse. $50k here means either extremely well-bred youngster, or confirmed at Third with potential to move up, or older upper-level horse with maintenance requirements needing to step down to Third. Maybe things are different where you live.
He is not ex-racing. And i really have zero expectations about scooping up big dollars and selling him because i’m contractually unable to do that. Plus he’s cute and i kinda like him. He’s easy. One of my easiest horses to ride.
It was my coach that told my he would go for 50k easily. I think because of ‘yellowstone’ and his coloration/western look. I think that’s what she said.
Sorry, I thought that was a rescue for race horses.
I paid $12k 1 year ago for a sound sane appendix QH that was much greener than this one sounds to be. He was 4 years old. Sold as 15.3H he really sticked at 15.2H and is petite. He was also lightly jumping. SE PA.
Terrible at selling horses, so I’m unlikely to be able to help you price a horse.
Still, I’m curious, what is your mare’s cutting lineage? I had a cutting bred full QH for 27 years who my eventing coach described as a big horse in little horse clothes.
Long-backed, weirdly she could sit under saddle and push from behind starting at about age six. She was a palomino with an expressed champagne gene, and it looks like Beanie might have that too. I swear dressage helped my mare stay rideable until her last few months at 28.
They usually have a few OTTBs. And those are the ones i usually link on here when people are horse-hunting. But the majority of their horses are grade. And a dribble of other breeds. I have from them: Missouri foxtrotter, Arabian, Akhal-teke sporthorse, Percheron, Standardbred, American curly, this guy i’m talking about who is a QH type grade, and two mules.