Grey mare at the barn has it on her hinds; they spray her down with apple cider vinegar…
I second the head &shoulders suggestion, that’s what we use.
Excaliber Sheath Cleaner Scrub with rag lightly rinse scrub again. If it is cannon keritosis likely needs to be done at the least weekly .
Well if it is the same crude that develops on the front of my mares hind legs…it’s called pee splatter…if I don’t take care of it on a regular bases she will actually lose some of her hair and it will be some what pink…I think it is because she has white socks. The other horses have dark legs and the get the same crude but not the burn marks from the urine.
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Oh fertheluva…
Use a rubber mit nubbin curry on the cannon bones with the regular grooming and it’ll go away. Use same mit while giving a soap bath should the occasion arise using regular body shampoo.
Too many fancy potions and goop. Sometimes it’s just filth and poor grooming. Putting more crap on it just makes filth topped with crap. And eventually bald skin, or worse, scalded bald skin.
I have had good luck with scrubbing it gently with a soft rubber curry, drying carefully and applying an antibacterial ointment like polysporin.
Bactine (remember that?) has been effective on both this and scratches.
I’ve said several times that I cannot fault their care - it is not filth and poor grooming. But there do seem to be many roads to Rome in this instance.
My vet made up some cream that did wonders for a friend up country who
had tried lots of different things on her horse’s scratches…but at $70.00 a tub …ouch.
Fox, I understand the horses appear to be groomed very well. But there’s a long jump between keeping a horse shiny and slick vs correct grooming. I guarantee if this horse’s legs were being curried regularly, this condition absolutely would NOT appear, much less be chronic. It makes me nuts to see the grooming ‘tools’ on shelves these days. Pretty colors with wide lumps meant to ‘massage’ the horse. Currying, TRUE currying is meant to lift the sebum away from the skin and down the hair shaft, carrying dirt and dead skin cells with it. This does not happen by using a brush alone.
And, scratches are caused by an opportunistic bug. If this is chronic, then I’d have the horse’s blood drawn for a CBC, and ask if an abx like Sulfamethasone is appropriate. Again, keep leg hair very short, well groomed and have horse live in a dry environment. If there’s a swath of mud on the way to the gate, have a temporary fence erected so horses don’t stand in the mud hours on end.
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The people who said cannon keratosis are most likely correct.
Regular grooming with soft rubber curry and use of a shampoo containing benzoyl peroxide will take care of it.
Too often, people get so obsessive about these things, they end up causing more problems than they solve with all the goo they apply.
And a brand name for such a shampoo?
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Pyoben or Oxydex pet shampoo, Selsun Blue human shampoo; just hit the shampoo aisle and check labels.
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o.k. Gumtree - tell us what the Sulphur Dip is and where to buy. Not seen it here. Myself, other than scratches, I have not seen much of this scunge up here and never had a horse of my own have it. I keep mine at home.
With scrtches, I think it becomes more common in barns where the horses stand at the gate before being brought in for the night and it gets muddy with our rain. The bacteria/fungus is all around in the soil, but perhaps concentrates at the gates.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, haven’t check back on this thread in a while. The following is the “formula” for Lime Sulfur dip. Pretty simple. You should be able to get a bottle of lime sulfur concentrate from a vet supply, pharmacy maybe Tractor Supply or the like.
One gallon is a lot so you might only want to make a quart. We have never had to apply for more then a couple of days for most problems. A bad case of rain rot or some other fungal/bacteria problems may require a longer course of action. If the skin is a bit red and or raw better have an assistant at the horse’s head because it may sting some.
This is not my “homemade remedy” got it from a vet a while ago.
Lime sulfur dip : 4oz lime sulfur dip in 1 gallon water. Apply to affected skin once per day for 4-5 days. Then apply twice per week until lesions resolve.
Scratches can be caused by a number of wet conditions. Some of ours get it from time to time and there is no mud at the gate nor in the paddocks.
Wet conditions and or water dripping down their pasterns creates perfect “growing” conditions for things to take hold in this area that is constantly wet or moist.
I’ve had very good luck with Benzol Peroxide shampoo - you’ll need to get it through a vet though. Leave it on about 5 minutes before rinsing - longer if it’s a severe case. And be careful not to get any on your clothes or it’ll bleach them. Despite that, it doesn’t seem to be harsh on the horse - hair actually seems very nice and soft afterwards.
The last time my horse had it (in the spring), it only took one shampooing to eliminate it.
Selsun Blue doesn’t contain any benzoyl peroxide. Active ingredients are selenium sulfide & salicylic acid which should help with this type of condition.
I could never find a human shampoo with benzoyl peroxide but there are face washes that contain 10%. These can be found the acne medications aisle of the drug store.
Equiderma. Just clean off the area gently. When dry, wipe on Equiderma. It works in a few days and is gentle. It is amazing. I’ve treated mud fungus, canon keratosis and face crud with it. No scrubbing needed. The crud generally just wipes away after a few days of treatment.
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I have a horse that develops nastiness on his back legs, and I feel that the problem is related to urinating. To be absolutely honest and for full disclosure, in my case the horse isn’t kept in pristine conditions - he can choose to be out in rain, mud, etc. I’ve noticed that being out on long grass also exacerbates the issue. Of course he is fed and checked daily, but he doesn’t get a thorough currying every single day. It’s certainly possible that better grooming could avoid the issue entirely.
At any rate, I apply Desitin diaper cream when it crops up. I curry that off, shampoo it with dandruff shampoo, lightly scrubbing. I reapply the diaper cream as often as needed, and it seems to clear up. The diaper cream is disgusting and smelly and messy, but I’ve tried other things and for my horse, I think it is the most effective way of dealing with it.
My barn had a cold laser on loan so I tried it on my horse’s cannon bones and it worked!! Of course that’s not a practical solution unless you already have a laser. Since there was one available and the cost was basically nothing, I thought it would be worth a try.
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with the exception of traveling to shows and different footings etc, our vet pointed out that it’s only with geldings here…it’s where their pee splashes on them and gathers dirt. I wasn’t so sure, but I’ve noticed several of them with “splash spots” right after peeing and sure enough, those are the ones that have the crud. No wonder that no matter how much we curry and wash his legs that it comes right back![/QUOTE]
that was the diagnosis for one horse at the barn… don’t know how they treated, but it went away. I don’t think the horse pees differently though!
Cannon keratosis, “cannon crud” is cleared up with Equiderma lotion in about 2 days. Once cleared up, you can later it on weekly for prevention. Smells good, and you leave it on. No mess.
I was just at the Retired TB Makeover at Kentucky Horse Park and everyone was talking about/using this product for exactly this problem.
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Cannon keratosis, “cannon crud” is cleared up with Equiderma lotion in about 2 days. Once cleared up, you can later it on weekly for prevention. Smells good, and you leave it on. No mess.
I was just at the Retired TB Makeover at Kentucky Horse Park and everyone was talking about/using this product for exactly this problem.[/QUOTE]
Seriously people. Equiderma. If you have to cover the whole horse, then it’s not really cost effective. But for cannon crud? Wipe on, wipe off. It is amazing.
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