White line disease

[Scribbler]

I don’t see anything serious going on either. I do see a bit of stretch or “dirtyness” in the white line, and I would like to see more of s bevel or “mustang roll” on the walls. This will take some of the pressure off the outer wall. My ideal foot is smooth and hard so there is no change of texture over the white line.

OP what qualifications does this hoof care professional have? Is he a certified farrier, an educated barefoot trimmer, or a selftaught trimmer?

I ask because there are many trimmers without any real training who tend to go around seeing imaginary problems that only they can see and fix. Often it’s imaginary thrush, for Instance. I m never sure if they are honestly mistsken or bullshitting to scare the client away from the last farrier.

Also if your trimmer is saying the horse has a thin sole, and your vet has xrays, ask your vet if this is true.

[mswillie]

@rubygirl1968

I hope you’re right and it will just take some time to grow out! When I was cleaning his feet tonight I didn’t see anything but dirt in the separation.

I sent my farrier this picture tonight and she said she thought it looked better than when she first trimmed him. I think it looks about the same. Not as bad as it could be, I don’t think.

These feet don’t look nearly as bad as my horse’s feet did. Even if yours does have WLD it’s going to take quite some time to see any change. It has to grow out. My horse’s feet looked the same for a day or two before the wall started crumbling to dust. Then you can see how long it took for the clean foot to grow out.

Either way, I hope you find the answers you’re looking for. The soak won’t hurt. I didn’t mention that my horse frequently got scratches as well. I haven’t seen that in 7 years either. To be fair his nutrition and living conditions improved significantly when I bought him but he needed the treatment to get rid of the gunk before he could really start to get better.

And another aside, my horse has thin soles and flat feet diagnosed via x-ray. He wears pads on the front and is shod behind too. It’s what he needs.

[rubygirl1968]

@JB

I don’t see any evidence of WLD Not even white line separation from a stretched toe. Can you point out where you’re seeing, or were told the WLD is?

The only “separation” I see is from maybe some overgrown wall, not true separation from flaring.

That’s the separation I see too. It’s on the right quarter of the hoof extending down to the toe. I’m glad to be wrong!!!

It’s originally where she cut out the crumbly stuff and since then I’ve been doing the soaks and treatments. Every time I think it’s getting better at the next trim she says it’s still there. In her defense, the last picture I just sent her (that I posted here as well) she said it looks better and doesn’t see any white line disease now. Maybe the Clean Trax worked or maybe I saw increasing separation and worried for nothing.

[rubygirl1968]

@Scribbler

I don’t see anything serious going on either. I do see a bit of stretch or “dirtyness” in the white line, and I would like to see more of s bevel or “mustang roll” on the walls. This will take some of the pressure off the outer wall. My ideal foot is smooth and hard so there is no change of texture over the white line.

OP what qualifications does this hoof care professional have? Is he a certified farrier, an educated barefoot trimmer, or a selftaught trimmer?

I ask because there are many trimmers without any real training who tend to go around seeing imaginary problems that only they can see and fix. Often it’s imaginary thrush, for Instance. I m never sure if they are honestly mistsken or bullshitting to scare the client away from the last farrier.

Also if your trimmer is saying the horse has a thin sole, and your vet has xrays, ask your vet if this is true.

She’s a certified farrier. I was given her name from a cjf that wasn’t taking new clients when I called.

I’ll ask the vet about his soles.

Apart from the lack of beveling or mustang roll, what do you all think of the trim? It’s been hard to find a farrier that will come out for one horse and every 5-6 weeks. I think in the summer he could be done at 4 but no one I called when I switched would come out that frequently.

[rubygirl1968]

I thought I responded to everyone this morning, but apparently my phone is possessed and didnt. I miss my old flip phone sometimes.

@CHT, I did some of that too. I got the spray athletes foot stuff and would spray the crack after I picked his feet. Seemed to get down in there pretty good. It wasn’t his favorite treatment by far.

@mswillie, thank you.

[mswillie]

@rubygirl1968

It’s originally where she cut out the crumbly stuff and since then I’ve been doing the soaks and treatments. Every time I think it’s getting better at the next trim she says it’s still there. In her defense, the last picture I just sent her (that I posted here as well) she said it looks better and doesn’t see any white line disease now. Maybe the Clean Trax worked or maybe I saw increasing separation and worried for nothing.

Any crumbly stuff is going to have to grow out. Just because you still can see that doesn’t necessarily mean that there is still an active disease process going on. Although my horse’s feet grew at what I considered a phenomenal rate it still took time for him to get to the point where all the crumbly stuff was gone. And longer for the entire hoof to grow out. I only ever did one treatment. I was prepared to do a second one but he didn’t need it.

[rubygirl1968]

@mswillie

Any crumbly stuff is going to have to grow out. Just because you still can see that doesn’t necessarily mean that there is still an active disease process going on. Although my horse’s feet grew at what I considered a phenomenal rate it still took time for him to get to the point where all the crumbly stuff was gone. And longer for the entire hoof to grow out. I only ever did one treatment. I was prepared to do a second one but he didn’t need it.

Ok, thank you. I’m glad I went ahead and got 4 bottles of Clean Trax but I’ll hang on to the other two and keep them refrigerated.

[kiwichick]

My horse has it too. Its characterised by him as a split in the hoof wall. Ive treated it but the crack remains and my farrier says it takes forever to resolve properly (and grow down)
In fact I understand its behind a lot of hoof cracks.
My horses while line stretched due to me allowing him to go a long time between trims (there were reasons behind this, he was under serious medical intervention and had become extremely dangerous to handle)
So I accept I caused it and now I need to fix it. Mine isnt lame either and has a significant split in the front hoof.