I’ve got a friend who’s been researching jumper breeding. She’s found that Pilot tends to make a hotter horse…right? So I’m surprised Aprio is so quiet.
She’s been researching for a stallion to calm her Power/Pilot mare and Aprio certainly is lovely…but wouldn’t going to Aprio with Pilot on both sides, risk being hotter?
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Banders looks like a nice prospect - though I’d like to see a conformation photo of him, but agree that the Grannus/Beach Boy is a nice addition to Balou.[/QUOTE]
http://www.shnpayback.org/stallions/banderas.xml
There are some here.
Jennifer posted some nice conformation photos of him on her FB page. He is really pretty
https://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set/fbx/?set=a.10150138977779502.339992.548609501
I’ll be happy to jump in on this come June… we are expecting 1 by Apiro and 1 by Banderas, both out of Thoroughbred mares. I’ll let you know what we get =]
I have a two year old by Apiro out of a GOV approved TB mare. He has a fantastic personality; a real ham, curious, clever, into everything but sensible and kind. He has been easy to start groundwork/ponying, and was exceptionally behaved at his first breed show last month. He even won his class! He has great feet, conformation, bone, and, to my chagrin, he jumps three-railers already. A very nice young horse…
I bred my hanoverian mare by Regazzoni to Apiro back in April. I did tons of research before i selected a stallion. Apiro did the jumpers in Germany before being imported to the states. He has a fantastic temperament, great jump and a strong hind end. Seems to be naturally balanced and really stamps his foals with his physique. He has a very rhythmic stride as well, and seeing some of his older babies that are 4,5,6 years old now seem to inherit that.
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I’ll be happy to jump in on this come June… we are expecting 1 by Apiro and 1 by Banderas, both out of Thoroughbred mares. I’ll let you know what we get =][/QUOTE]
Sooooo … is it show and tell time??? Have some photos to share with us to see how these two boys did with your girls?? Inquiring minds want to know. :winkgrin:
I wish!!! The Apiro baby was absorbed. So now we have 2 Banderas babies (1 2010, 1 2011) and no Apiro baby to compare to… So much for being helpful!
I can’t speak for Apiro, but here are some pictures of my 2010
colt, Faust NSN, by Banderas out of Never Say Never (Wanroij x Milkie XXA), taken last year. If the size of the buck has anything to say about jumping ability, this guy should be able to go all the way. He is extremely athletic with great balance.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l98/mhaley1010/Faust%20NSN%20by%20Banderas/DSC_0001.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l98/mhaley1010/Faust%20NSN%20by%20Banderas/DSC_0079.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l98/mhaley1010/Faust%20NSN%20by%20Banderas/DSC_0075-1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l98/mhaley1010/Faust%20NSN%20by%20Banderas/DSC_0078-1.jpg
I have an Apiro this year out of an Oldenburg mare (albeit 50% TB)…
Great match. :yes:
Baby is athletic, quiet, baby boy… He’ll be a great horse for his (most-likely) amateur rider. 
Pics:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150184985709171.321596.320210999170
Apiro really needs a mare with some TB or a TB mare. He produces BIG.
I have a Banderas on the way for next year, so if this thread gets bumped again, I’ll report back! 
Dutch, that first picture made me gasp! What a beauty!!
EM - love!
Thanks JB! He sold as a stallion prospect, so here’s hoping he makes it. I am expecting a full sibling in 2012.
I don’t think Banderas generally passes on size, but my mare does. He does pass on a great temperament, athleticism, and if my colt is any indication, very good jumping technique.
Thanks JB! :winkgrin:
Agreed, Dutch’s boy is drop dead gorgeous. :yes: Fingers crossed for you that he makes to stallion-dom!
I hope my Banderas comes out as nice as Dutch’s… :winkgrin:
At least this year I have a chance at something else than chestnut in the colour department!
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I wish!!! The Apiro baby was absorbed. So now we have 2 Banderas babies (1 2010, 1 2011) and no Apiro baby to compare to… So much for being helpful![/QUOTE]
I’m so sorry re: the Apiro foal :no: but there’s always next year, right?
What do you think of your Banderas foals?? Pictures??
I have a Banderas o/o a TB mare, the chrome fairy skipped over her though 
although her feet have started turning white recently 
Here she is at 18 weeks old…she’s massive, vet says she’s one of the biggest 4 month old he’s seen. Restricted from her dams feed, she was just shy of 13 hands at 16 weeks old.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30977483&l=626f2bec3c&id=149402250
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30977482&l=b494858cc3&id=149402250
Next to her 16 hand dam
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30973584&l=489f7af496&id=149402250
She will be weaned after her inspection this weekend to try and slow her growth down.
I’ve been thrilled with her, she seems super easy going and great to handle on the ground, but does have a bit of sass. Figured bathing out nicely and will drink out of the hose, and was great for the clippers this past weekend. Nice feet, straight-ish legs (we had some OATK that rejuvinaide took care of). Very brave and athletic, she jumped 4 different fences last weekend while her dam was being ridden (and I just happened to catch one with the camera).
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30973582&l=f5061872a7&id=149402250
I wish I could have caught the 2’3" culvert, or even my barrels, she was NICE over those, perfect tight knees! But at least it shows she wants to do what she was bred for! I wasn’t too thrilled about the stress on those legs though, last time she got to stand in the center of the ring like a nice girl and watch mommy and learn patience!
Here she is at 8 weeks after her first bath.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dADi79S7ek
I haven’t had any Apiro foals, but I’ve had two Banderas colts. I have really liked them and would breed to him again. Here is this year’s colt, at 2 1/2 months of age, out of my Lonely Boy/Monsun ox mare.
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l31/HillsideHRanch/BenicioAug16Confo2.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l31/HillsideHRanch/BenicioAug16Confo.jpg
To be entirely honest - we don’t have great photos of either. I am the family photographer but based out of Atlanta, while our breeding operation is based in Canada. I have their original foal photos taken by my aunt. The fillies are full sisters and both blessed by the chrome fairy =]
They are both being presented to RPSI on Sept 18, and I will definitely update all with photos & comments on the 19th =]
See if these work… if not & you happen to be on facebook, search TimberRidge Sporthorses.
Brisa aka “Breezie”, the 2010 filly
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.462203281039.243514.307700991039#!/photo.php?fbid=462203286039&set=a.462203281039.243514.307700991039&type=1&theater
Bright As Day aka “Brandy”, the 2011 filly
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150356473631040.428990.307700991039&type=1#!/photo.php?fbid=10150345686151040&set=a.10150356473631040.428990.307700991039&type=1&theater
Both have the classic hunter look. I’ve got my eye on Brandy as my future hunter already I really like Breezie also, but I think her neck might be a little bit coarse for what I prefer. Love the heads on both of them. They got their daddy’s ears…
This is an interesting thread as I now have an Apiro and a Banderas!
The Apiro is absolutely lovely. She is out of a Beach Boy x TB mare. The mare is probably 15.2, the yearling Apiro is close to that size now and has a ton of bone. Everyone is in love with her, she has his lovely eye and head. She moves very well with a ton of suspension but very flat and hunter-y. I am very excited about her. She has an interesting personality, she is very unflappable in that you can’t chase, spook or startle her. She was also very shy and was nearly impossible to catch until this summer, and very cautious about people as a baby. She is very friendly now, and easy to work with, her one flaw is her ‘unflappable’ nature as it also makes her a little stubborn. I foresee spurs in her future ha ha. I like her very much and everyone who sees her ohs and ahs she has so much presence. I see the big hunter ring in her future (that’s the hope anyhow).
My Banderas is out of a different mare. He is only a month old and we are equally in love with him. He is SO pretty. He is the prettiest foal I have ever seen, his head is so typey, so it’s hard to see past that to his ‘real’ qualities.
He seems small, but he is my only foal this year and they all seem small to me at that age. The mare is somewhat old-fashioned, not petite and not too tall, a little long. The foal is more short-coupled than the mare. The mare is a very good dressage mover, the foal also appears to have a lot of suspension and reach, with less knee than the mare (at a month old, so whatever that means). He is a very personable foal and very interested in people. I am very pleased with him as well, but time will tell of course as he grows!!
Personally, i would not use either of those stallions on that mare. Holly, you should consider using frozen semen from an internationally proven stallion. contessa is worth that. not that apiro and banderas are bad stallions, but not proven producers in the big jumper ring.
I have a four-month old Banderas filly out of a small Popeye K mare (15.2 and a bit and quite fine). The filly is huge - at least 13 hands. The biggest of 8 on the farm - the rest are out of larger warmblood dams than mine. The filly is leggy and elegant and has a wonderful, big rhythmic canter. She is going to make someone a super hunter in a few years. Her temperament is exceptional - friendly, curious and so easy to work with. I wasn’t going to breed again anytime soon but I’m so happy with her, my mare will have another date with Banderas in the spring.
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2507687350102440549THDRRp
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2984518510102440549INngBT
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2743799650102440549eqQZTa
