You would have to get the cumulative NEW membership numbers for the years medals have been offered and not include renewals (so a 20-year member wouldn’t get counted as 20 members) because each medal can only be earned once by each member. Membership in one year is just a tiny percentage of the total membership over the years. Many of the medal winners listed are no longer members or no longer even alive.
I think of the actual medal as a brooch; it’s around 2 inches in diameter. I suspect it’s called a medal because it is similar in size to a military dress medal which would also be pinned on one’s “uniform.”
yes, I qualified my post initially with this point, and said that my #'s were a “starting point” and the only #'s actually available. So clearly (which I didn’t say) the real %'s are lower - maybe as someone suggested, as much as 1/3 lower - who knows but that 1/3 might be reasonable.
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Don’t we pay horse and rider membership fees for their time and attention?
When I got my bronze I ordered it right away, complete with fee, and it took -literally- two years to arrive.
And now that they have shut down centerline scores any bragging rights/marketing bonus those scores would have gotten me are hidden behind a pay wall.
I have to pay to get the medal and other people have to pay to see I got the medal.
Utter bullsht.
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I can’t wait til horseshows start chrging $5 extra per ribbon.
Oh, you won the prize you competed for?
That will be $5 extra to actually receive the prize you competed for.
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I 100% agree… I kept my maiden name when I got married so my show record would be complete. Someone goggles my name my eventing record shows up… at least with centerline scores someone could see my dressage record… now someone would have to pay to access my scores.
As a sport, we want legitimate trainers, and clients need to see who those people are. One way to do that is to access scores.
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If it is any comfort, Centerline Scores is back up!
Hate to break it to you, but you are paying for the ribbon and prize, along with the judge fees, their travel expenses, facility fee, etc with your entry fee. Nothing is free.
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I’m another one of these. I never showed my old horse below 3rd so I’ve got those scores, plus all of my scores for silver. This summer I’m actually finishing my bronze scores with my young horse - we’re getting our scores for 1st next weekend and then we’ll go 2nd the rest of the summer and at champs. I think it’s a little more common than one might think.
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Some GMOs buy the lapel pins for their members
We’re already somewhat there at some shows in S. Cal; if there aren’t a certain number of riders in the class, you get the ribbon but not the “prize” which is usually something heavily branded by the show management. :rolleyes:
Some of our Nor-Cal shows too:(
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That sucks.
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I don’t think I came across as needing you to “break it to me” that horseshows have entry fees one has to pay in order to compete.
My point is that the prize one then wins should be included in said entry fee.
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I just looked up the membership number of a friend who joined usdf in 2016. It’s 189,xxx. And I also looked up another friend who is a gold medalist that has scores going back to the 1980s and her membership number is 9,xxx. I think it’s likely that the USDF started assigning membership numbers at #1. To explore this, I tried typing a common name (Anne) into centerline scores and came up with membership numbers as low as 18 and 27. Centerline says on their webpage that they have scores for 112,821 riders but that their records are not complete. On their recent medalist page, I found a bronze medalist with the USDF #205,xxx.
So there have been over 100,000 people that have shown in USDF recognized shows and over 200,000 with USDF numbers. Seems like any of these medals are a rare and worthwhile achievement.
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But the numbers only show who bothered to apply for the medals, not the total number of people who qualified for the medal. So it may look more rare than it actually is. (Although it probably still is a small percentage of the total.)
Badger - I’m impressed! And yes, it paints a much different picture when you have numerator and denominator that reflect the same data base/time frame!
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I don’t think so in Badger’s Centerline Scores scenario, as they just look at the scores, not at the actual medal ownership.
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It’s been a good discussion, but I’m wondering why you ask? Just curious.
In Canada I have to pay, which I refuse to do because at the end of the day it doesn’t get you much. I have the scores, which can be found on Equine Canada’s website (for free and is very easy to search) if I ever need proof. I don’t see the value, but this seems to be more popular in the US?
