Depends on the auctioneer. I keep dithering with going to auction school and you’re taught to develop your own ‘patter’. Whatever works for you to keep the bids flowing.
That is part of the reason I love going to sales! Also, if you need to bring non-horsemen, it makes it more fun for them & they squeak less about going to another horsie thing.
Say, are there any female tb/stb auctioneers? I don’t think I’ve ever seen one.
Mr. Gumtree, you truly amaze with your knowledge, logic & writing skills.
For fun, I get a kick out of this commercial, the Geico grocery auctioneer:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsjkqt0dqag
And a 10 year old livestock auctioneer, you go kid!
On filler words for the OP.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDrDOnRH1qM
Dancer, I think that course would be a blast!
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Immediately after he had signed the sale ticket, his wife Anne (an astute horsewoman in her right) approached and said, “I see you bought a twin.” :eek:
Moral to the story is know what you are bidding on and listen to the preliminary introductions of each horse.[/QUOTE]
My SOs nephew did something like that at a Standardbred sale last fall that they went to. Nephew thought he was bidding on a really nice trotter and ended up buying an alright pacer named Lighten My Wealth. Good news is she been picking up checks since he’s started racing her and had a nice win (by 10 lengths) two nights ago.
I had the good fortune of working for Mr. Campbell as part of his inspection team at some 2 year old sales. I remember him telling me that story. Along with many others. Some of which never to be repeated.
A number of years ago at the Keeneland sales I had a late night and a hot date. When I got home I checked my messages, back in analog days of message machines and pre-cell phones as a norm. A client had called and left me a message to buy a horse for him the next day. Instead of leaving the message on the tape I hit erase without writing the hip number down, thinking darn it’s early in the sale, have to get up early after a lot of very good red wine at dinner. Woke up late, jumped in my car flew to Keeneland, jumped out at the valet, ran into the pavilion while the horse was in the ring. Got my bids in just in time and bought the horse for $48,000, my budget was $50,000.
Needed some coffee before calling my client and checked my messages. Client called saying he was disappointed we didn’t get the horse and left some other hip numbers. WTF! I bought the wrong horse!
Now I am sweating red wine. I owe Keeneland $48,000! I had maybe had $4,800 in the bank. A few hours later I check messages. Two other agents called asking if I was interested in selling the mare. One of which was a leading buyer for big outfits, Demi O’Byrne. Humm, something must being going on in the pedigree that wasn’t on the sales page. I tried to do some research on the family, lap tops and instant “updates” weren’t available in the late 80s. But knowing who the 2 agents were I figured something “juicy” was going on. Turned down their first couple of offers and settle on $75,000. I signed the sales ticket over and the difference was wired to my account a few days later.
Dinner and drinks were on me that night at Dudleys.
Yes, always listen to any and all announcements from the podium! And check the bid board to make sure it says the mare is still in-foal! But that’s another story.
Your too kind. My “knowledge” was even broader before anything that came out of my mouth could be “fact checked” with Google on a smart phone.
The “grocery auctioneer’s” other job is selling horses for Keeneland.
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That is part of the reason I love going to sales! Also, if you need to bring non-horsemen, it makes it more fun for them & they squeak less about going to another horsie thing.
Say, are there any female tb/stb auctioneers? I don’t think I’ve ever seen one.
Mr. Gumtree, you truly amaze with your knowledge, logic & writing skills.
For fun, I get a kick out of this commercial, the Geico grocery auctioneer:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsjkqt0dqag
And a 10 year old livestock auctioneer, you go kid!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByK7kRR8hok[/QUOTE]
Your too kind. My “knowledge” was even broader before anything that came out of my mouth could be “fact checked” with Google on a smart phone.
The “grocery auctioneer’s” other job is selling horses for Keeneland.
Shoot, no fooling, on the Geico fellow! Makes sense though, actually.
I wonder how top bidcallers at the major sales get paid.
On your 48k -75k purchase, omg and thank goodness!!! Those were some very funny stories.
[QUOTE=sonomacounty;8142168]
On filler words for the OP.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDrDOnRH1qM
Dancer, I think that course would be a blast![/QUOTE]
I kind of would love doing it–it’s to get a license and work as one, and I think estate auctioning would be incredibly fun, or working for a general auction house. There’s one near where I used to board and twice a month it’s antiques and collectibles, twice a month it’s bulk food, there’s always something. You can do real estate, even (when licensed.)
[QUOTE=sonomacounty;8142168]
On filler words for the OP.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDrDOnRH1qM
Dancer, I think that course would be a blast![/QUOTE]
That totally makes sense now why they do it. Thanks for posting the link!!!
[QUOTE=gumtree;8142464]
I had the good fortune of working for Mr. Campbell as part of his inspection team at some 2 year old sales. I remember him telling me that story. Along with many others. Some of which never to be repeated.
A number of years ago at the Keeneland sales I had a late night and a hot date. When I got home I checked my messages, back in analog days of message machines and pre-cell phones as a norm. A client had called and left me a message to buy a horse for him the next day. Instead of leaving the message on the tape I hit erase without writing the hip number down, thinking darn it’s early in the sale, have to get up early after a lot of very good red wine at dinner. Woke up late, jumped in my car flew to Keeneland, jumped out at the valet, ran into the pavilion while the horse was in the ring. Got my bids in just in time and bought the horse for $48,000, my budget was $50,000.
Needed some coffee before calling my client and checked my messages. Client called saying he was disappointed we didn’t get the horse and left some other hip numbers. WTF! I bought the wrong horse!
Now I am sweating red wine. I owe Keeneland $48,000! I had maybe had $4,800 in the bank. A few hours later I check messages. Two other agents called asking if I was interested in selling the mare. One of which was a leading buyer for big outfits, Demi O’Byrne. Humm, something must being going on in the pedigree that wasn’t on the sales page. I tried to do some research on the family, lap tops and instant “updates” weren’t available in the late 80s. But knowing who the 2 agents were I figured something “juicy” was going on. Turned down their first couple of offers and settle on $75,000. I signed the sales ticket over and the difference was wired to my account a few days later.
Dinner and drinks were on me that night at Dudleys.
Yes, always listen to any and all announcements from the podium! And check the bid board to make sure it says the mare is still in-foal! But that’s another story.[/QUOTE]
Great story. Don’t think there is a better story teller than Cot but if he ever shuts up and I hope not soon you will be a good replacement.
:lol: The best one I ever remember is a household auction, with a watercolor by a named artist, that had started low.and was rollling along. The bids had climbed into 5 figures. when the auctioneer in his patter said “I have 12-5, looking for 6” Two young ladies jumped in, But when they bid, and the the auctioneer said " and I have $12, 600, looking for 12-7", he caught their horrified reactions, and realized that they had not been paying attention. He scolded them, backed up the bidding, and it went on. He was a nice guy , and had a good rep.
I would be remiss in not recommending “Fair Exchange” by (the late) Humphrey Finney. A very enjoyable and informative read detailing the life of one of the original principals at Fasig-Tipton.
JMHO but the TB world comes alive best during the TC series, Keeneland and Saratoga meets, and the yearling and 2 yr old sales.
Must say this has been an interesting thread considering it comes from a query over the incoherent chant of someone deliberately talking over and trying to confuse the thinking of a large group of so-called experts trying to make a buck off the back of a horse. :lol:
As an after thought, “Lukas at Auction” by Joe Bagan is also an interesting insight into the odds of a winning bid being for the “right horse.” Out of print, you might be able to find a copy in the used book system. The odds for acquiring the “right horse” for Lukas was not much better than for anyone else, but when it got the right horse, it was big.
Many years ago, I investigated being an auctioneer, like Danceonice suggested. But two realities to came to light. I get tongue tied and I live in a very rural area that didn’t have a stop light for 50 miles in any direction. That was 30 years ago. Now we have two stop lights within 35 miles.
Female bid callers for Dancer:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6ez5srGpmk
and on the psychology behind it
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFC7zYgMhPw
Dancer, I was thinking about it and some of the most memorable, fun and life enriching things I’ve done have been a bit off of my regular track. I think you need to do this & we will live vicariously through you.
I have a not strong voice with poor projection on top of a broken body so I really doubt I could do it.
Btw, don’t you all think some of these bid caller guys are super cute & sexy?
Thanks Shammy, just got those two books on Amazon!
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I wonder if there is any relation between the “market calling” that used to be part of the open-air outdoor markets in “market towns” in England, etc. Some of those markets still exist, and in some, so does the tradition of sellers calling out about their goods. Supposedly each seller used to develop a distinctive call to lure buyers to their stall. Sometimes market calling and auctioneer rapid fire talking sound similar to me.[/QUOTE]
Come to any town in Northern England, it still takes place. Always fun to hear people touting their wares.
Gumtree, start packing away your stories … We will buy the book.
“Gumtree, start packing away your stories … We will buy the book.”
+1
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Gumtree, start packing away your stories … We will buy the book.[/QUOTE]
yes. please.