Working Student in Germany with No Contract

I am not an expert but I think yes! This link explains it better…

https://www.pforzheim-integriert.de/en/living/work/work-permits-arbeitserlaubnis.html

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Do you think that the OP would be wise to make sure of the regulations and employment laws before taking the position?

Well I was an exchange student in Kansas in 1979 way before cellphones and Internet was invented :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:. Not sure whether that qualifies me as experienced with international situations…. of course I was not working….

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As I said before, I believe the OP needs to make an honest assessment about her personal level as a rider and horse person…. If she is up to the job she will probably have a great time and make great connections! If she is not, she might be miserable…
she is not breaking any laws and she will most probably be insured….
Sorry no other way to say it…. The horse business is extremly though and not a romantic summer getaway…. I am German so I don’t do sugar coating……

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I’m glad to hear that!

Horsemanship, not up to snuff would be a better experience and outcome than trouble with the law.

When there was a working student at one of the places I boarded at in Germany they were worked hard. 6 says a week from dawn to dusk (or beyond) basically. One of them did not ride, but did everything else. It can be a great experience, and you can learn a lot. It’s definitely some long hours and little free time though. I think that it can be a valuable experience if you make sure to absorb everything you possibly can.

I would research the individual, so it’s good that the OP has the contact info for a previous working student. They could be a big name, but still a terrible person, so you do have to be cautious.

I think that the OP is likely fine on the visa and insurance stuff though.

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Former trainer of mine did this, on a non-working visa, and got deported back to the US and hit with a 10 year ban from the EU. They don’t play around on this which is likely why this trainer doesn’t do written contracts, because she doesn’t want a paper trail for her own personal liability.

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Did he have an EU residence permit?

She had some kind of visa but it did not allow her to work full time.

But the OP has an EU student visa additionally to a EU long term residence permit. she is allowed to work….
Not comparable to your trainer…

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If you’re not mature enough to take some initiative to figure out whether this is legal and to do legwork on your own to determine whether the position is legitimate, then you’re probably not well suited to stand up for yourself and extricate yourself if things go south. In which case, I’d advise against it. Why not just take a few lessons with this trainer if you have the contact to him/her.

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