WTF Are We Doing?

I won’t comment on allegations apparently made upthread, but from what little I could find online, it sounds like it was a tragic accident and I am not sure it’s relevant to the thread… unless the notion is that none of us should ride or work with horses.

It appears that this was a H/J show. While it is indeed a tragedy, and my heartfelt condolences go out to all those who knew and loved the person whose life was lost and those who witnessed the accident, I wonder if it is germane to the broader conversation on this Eventing thread.

If it was a rotational fall, such accidents in H/J (or Stadium) are exceedingly rare, and I am not sure there is very much else that can be done to prevent them. We already have flat cups and jumps designed to come down when hit. If it was a horse trip and fall or a “regular” rider fall or any number of other scenarios, those can happen in any discipline at any gait at any time. As we don’t know for sure the exact nature of the fall, or the injuries, or whether the rider was wearing a safety vest, it is likewise unclear if wearing one could have mitigated injuries.

Perhaps details will emerge that demonstrate that indeed, conditions were such that changes should be made. I don’t know that is clear at this point.

So, I am not sure there is much to discuss here other than the shock and sadness at someone doing something they, and we, love and losing their life in the process.

As a horsewoman, that is something that I have to accept is a possibility for myself, even when all precautions are taken. I think we all accept that risk when we decide to own, ride or be around horses.

I wish the friends and family peace and comfort, and may the rider rest in peace.

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Not that this is accurate either, but yeah it sounds pretty horrible.

https://horseshowdiva.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=168&sid=1c2a593953cff0cec0dc26f54680f1a9

I have to admit that my first thought when I saw this thread updated, was oh no, Cecelia or Stella Artois, that their injuries were worse than initially believed.

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I think she made the right choice deleting, and I’m sure we’ve all heard of something truly horrific and been quick to repeat “what we’ve heard”.

Something horrific did happen at fox Lea, and a jr died, we don’t know the details but shaming the poster for deleting her comment after she realized she made a mistake for posting without concrete facts is not fair.

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https://snbc13.com/hannah-serfass-died-after-an-accident-at-fox-lea-farm/?fbclid=IwAR3MPdiu9Hy9yArbfeYzOSnxoblXtQ_OvDkbqk4JoDgD79kWtJ49UN6n0zA&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#lh4v6a2actc18qohr2

Here is a local news story on the accident

Here’s the deal. As most of you know I am now primarily a jumper rider. As such, I had friends at Fox Lea yesterday, one was at the ring when it happened.I have talked to them. I know the facts from people who were there.

The cliff notes are this:

It was a junior eq class.

It did not happen at, over or on landing of a jump. It was between jumps.

There was an ambulance there almost immediately. The helicopter piece previously mentioned was not correct.

This was a tragic accident and show officials handled it as best as they could under the circumstances.

I’m not thrilled that the NBC news station chose to release the rider’s name. I was not there, but I too grieve for this family.

ETA: I was asked to include that the classes in the jumper ring were also cancelled after this accident.

Emily

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This is an actual local news site:

Wildwood teen dies in weekend horse riding accident - Villages-News.com

I can’t imagine the grief of her family and horror for anyone who witnessed it. So very sad.

A horrible accident, especially for someone so young. My heart goes out to the family.

Does anyone know if the horse also suffered in this accident and if so, how he is?

Horse was fine is what I am told.

Em

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I’m sorry to ask such a specific question but was this a rear-flip, or a fall-flip?

I heard it was a trip and fall.

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How horrible. I am terrified of the same happening when I’m riding, honestly.

My condolences to the family.

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No rear, no rotation over jump - horse went 3 or 4 strides tripped and fell on her.

Em

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Jesus. What a horrible, horrible tragedy.

Awful.

And do what instead? Leave the victim’s identity to speculation and rumor?

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Yes? It is common not to release the name of individuals under 18.

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I agree. The names of children killed in shootings are published. The names of the people killed over the years riding with my fox hunt were published. If you are killed in a car accident your name is published. As long as your relatives are notified first, why hide from the public the names of people killed in equestrian activities?

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It’s not common to release the names of individuals under 18 who face criminal charges.

Deaths of any sort are a matter of public record. Law enforcement may delay identifying the deceased until next of kin are notified. But we all have a right to know who died and under what circumstances, as heartbreaking as those facts may be.

Condolences to all affected.

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Eventually, yes. But many articles won’t release a name of a minor immediately (and the article seems like it was published within 24 hours).

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