WTF Are We Doing?

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What a lovely tribute

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if you don’t have access to Landsafe I would suggest a good martial arts instructor - learning to roll and fall when I did martial arts has certainly helped me

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I’m the other way round. A lifetime of falling off horses helps me in other circumstances, such as when I trip on the sidewalk.

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I may be offbase, but maybe Landsafe should be another thread. It just strikes me as kind of ā€œif people took this things like this wouldn’t happenā€. Yes, muscle memory is a thing, but isn’t going to help in every situation and strikes me as kind of gross this was brought up in discussion about a rider who lost their life. Not pointing necessarily to anyone specific on this thread- just hats off to Jessie. It kind of strikes home this happened at a lower level and is terribly sad.

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I am so sorry to put this link here:

Godspeed to his connections, and I hope Rachel is ok.

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Sorry to read this

So sorry to read this. I hope Rachel is OK. This was the only acknowledgment of it - AKFHT was silent on SM that I saw (if it is the one I follow). I guess I am suprised no condolences, hopefully I am friends with a different facility on the EC.

I was hoping for more information as well. This is so unusual for the level and area.

I have a friend that witnessed it. My understanding is the horse hit the first fence at a rotational fall, and then hit the second fence during the flip.

Ive been told this fence raised rider concerns before the crash, and this rider pair was the first pair out.

I hope more information comes to light soon.

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Maybe I’m a big sissy, but how is a 5 year old going Training?

I know back in ye olden days people didn’t even show up until Prelim or something, but today’s courses are different than what they used to be.

It just seems like a really young horse to be asking those kinds of questions over unforgiving obstacles.

I hope the rider is ok, and I hope they removed that fence after the fall.

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Training isn’t supposed to be unforgiving, and rotational falls at that level are rare. I’d withhold criticisms until more comes to light about the combination: my third-hand understanding is that riders there felt this fence was unfair and caused some issues between rider reps and the TD. This pair was the first rider out on course if I’m informed right.

In the right program with the right horse and rider, I don’t have an issue with a 5 y/o at that level if they are prepared. Professionals do it all the time and don’t get much flack for it.

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Any idea what type of fence it was?

If I recall correctly, the COTH member we lost to an accident was also riding training.

I don’t think your average person can have a 5 year old at training, where the horse needs to pick up the slack when the rider inevitably goofs up. They simply haven’t been on the earth long enough to have been asked the appropriate amount of questions to trust them to make the right choice when the rider has a ā€œjesus take the wheelā€ moment.

Pros can do what pros do. That’s not really relevant to my comment, is it?

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I don’t think you[g] have enough information about this accident, at this moment in time, to make criticisms about the rider’s mistakes/errors here, or the age of the horse.

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The horse literally has not been on the earth long enough. Unless this rider is a pro that can really intervene when a horse gets it wrong, it’s literally impossible for the horse to have the mileage to consider this a ā€œgoodā€ or ā€œacceptableā€ idea. I’m not commenting on an unknown. Unless the horse was jumping 3x a week and showing across the country to get the experience, it’s not possible.

Many trainers and riders are absolutely hungry to get to the next level as fast as they possibly can. This is likely one of those instances. Am I wrong?

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A witness (understandably shaken, so information may change) described to me a fence with a downhill landing and a quick turn to a narrow three log open ramp. The horse appeared to not understand the question and fell at the ramp.

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See above, I posted it.

Saw it and deleted my thought. Thank you.

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I wonder whether those time penalties were for going too fast or too slow.

way too fast is more alarming at the lower levels than too slow.

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