Your pick for the Haskell?

[LaurieB]

@mommy peanut

Oh Lordy here we go again LMFAO

No matter your opinion of Maximum Security, his jockey is a dangerous rider. That’s not up for debate.

It’s terrible when horses die or get injured on the track. Saez’s thug-like riding is exactly the kind that makes accidents happen. Winning by intimidation isn’t a good thing.

Infractions aren’t something new for Saez. Rough riding is the way he wins races. He’s been suspended eight times in the last ten months and twenty-two times since 2013. It’s a wonder he hasn’t killed someone.

I don’t know why you find that funny. I certainly don’t.

[Where_sMyWhite]

@LaurieB

No matter your opinion of Maximum Security, his jockey is a dangerous rider. That’s not up for debate.

I’d be inclined to agree.

I didn’t see the “bump” but I did see King For A Day having to strongly check on the far turn. Sounds like from the different camera angles it was hard to see the actual “infraction” while the results of King For A Day having to really check up was, at least for me, obvious.

When the same jock on the same well regarded horse has 2 inquiries in two races… that, to me, sends a signal that there is a “problem” that needs to be addressed.

Often owners are the “silent” partners in racing but if Maximum Security was my horse, I’d be after the trainer to never put Saez back on MS.

I don’t go to tracks but I have seen enough (even if it wasn’t many) examples of “dangerous” riding that ended with a severe check or fall of a horse and sometimes the death of the fallen horse along with a horse behind the horse that fell plus the collateral “damage” to the jocks.

Dangerous riding can’t be allowed, especially now that racing is under a microscope. Breakdowns are hard to watch but falls as a result of dangerous riding are, at least for me, harder to watch as they could have been avoided.

If you think Maximum Security (really Saez) did nothing, watch King For A Day… looks like he was almost headed for the rail at one point. Too soon, maybe, to know if this riding will get Saez set down for his riding. Wouldn’t impact the results of the race with respect to the owners and bettors but, as LaurieB pointed out, another smack of the hand on Saez’s b*tt.

[Palm_Beach]

Just another example of racing’s biggest weakness - no national oversight. Trainers can accummulate points in different jurisdictions for rulings against them, it’s a wonder that the same does not happen to jockeys. I know that the jockeys can complain to the stewards, but when the meets move around, and the big riders ride all over, it seems some can get away with things.

[skydy]

@LaurieB

No matter your opinion of Maximum Security, his jockey is a dangerous rider. That’s not up for debate.

It’s terrible when horses die or get injured on the track. Saez’s thug-like riding is exactly the kind that makes accidents happen. Winning by intimidation isn’t a good thing.

Infractions aren’t something new for Saez. Rough riding is the way he wins races. He’s been suspended eight times in the last ten months and twenty-two times since 2013. It’s a wonder he hasn’t killed someone.

I don’t know why you find that funny. I certainly don’t.

I had no idea that rough riding was his M.O.

I remember feeling bad for him because, in the Derby, it looked as if Maximum Security spooked and he tried to correct him.

That’s quite a record of suspensions. Is it unusual for a jockey to be suspended so often?

[LaurieB]

@skydy

That’s quite a record of suspensions. Is it unusual for a jockey to be suspended so often?

No.

[skydy]

So, it seems that suspension isn’t a particularly effective deterrent. It is up to owners and trainers not to use those jockeys?

[LaurieB]

@skydy

So, it seems that suspension isn’t a particularly effective deterrent. It is up to owners and trainers not to use those jockeys?

Actually I think it’s up to the stewards to suspend him often enough and long enough that it makes an impression on him.

Unfortunately trainers and owners ride him because he wins races.

[mommy_peanut]

@LaurieB

No matter your opinion of Maximum Security, his jockey is a dangerous rider. That’s not up for debate.

It’s terrible when horses die or get injured on the track. Saez’s thug-like riding is exactly the kind that makes accidents happen. Winning by intimidation isn’t a good thing.

Infractions aren’t something new for Saez. Rough riding is the way he wins races. He’s been suspended eight times in the last ten months and twenty-two times since 2013. It’s a wonder he hasn’t killed someone.

I don’t know why you find that funny. I certainly don’t.

My response had nothing to do with MS or Saez.
It had to do with Palm Beach’s exaggeration…

If Saez has that bad of a record (suspensions) then maybe it’s time to start fining him for reckless riding.

[Palm_Beach]

@mommy peanut

My response had nothing to do with MS or Saez.
It had to do with Palm Beach’s exaggeration…

You’ve never heard that commonly used expression before? Huh.

[caryledee]

I just watched the replay. OMG why wasn’t that enough to get MS taken down? Maybe if his horses are DQed enough it would send a message to Saez or those who employ him?

[Vivace1]

Admittedly King was starting to back up a bit, but getting knocked into the rail and checked hard certainly made him lose any hope of placing too.

They really need to win a race with Max cleanly before I give any respect for the group of them. It’s a shame because I think he’s a very nice horse.