2016 Fasig-Tipton November Sale

“Love the Chase, dam of 2014 Horse of the Year California Chrome, brought $1.95 million at the Fasig-Tipton November sale. Bloodstock agent John McCormack signed the ticket for the daughter of Not For Love offered by Taylor Made Sales.”…

Agent John has not said who the buyer is, only that she’ll stay in the US. Curious where she’s going.
I think she brought a good price. I had figured around 1.5-1.75m.
It’ll be interesting to see how crossing her with Tapit works out(or not).

It’s also noted that Cathryn Sophia sold as a broodmare prospect only. I didn’t realize she had been injured? She was purchased as a broodmare prospect only, $1.4 million.

Curalina sold for $3 million to Japan’s Shadai Farm.

Stopchargingmaria sold for $2.8 million to Three Chimneys Farm. No word on who she’ll be bred to.

Baffled sold for $3.5 million to John Malone’s Bridlewood Farm.

Bubbler(dam of Arrogate) went up to 4.7m, but was a RNA.

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“Love the Chase, dam of 2014 Horse of the Year California Chrome, brought $1.95 million at the Fasig-Tipton November sale. Bloodstock agent John McCormack signed the ticket for the daughter of Not For Love offered by Taylor Made Sales.”…

Agent John has not said who the buyer is, only that she’ll stay in the US. Curious where she’s going.
I think she brought a good price. I had figured around 1.5-1.75m.
It’ll be interesting to see how crossing her with Tapit works out(or not).

It’s also noted that Cathryn Sophia sold as a broodmare prospect only. I didn’t realize she had been injured? She was purchased as a broodmare prospect only, $1.4 million.

Curalina sold for $3 million to Japan’s Shadai Farm.

Stopchargingmaria sold for $2.8 million to Three Chimneys Farm. No word on who she’ll be bred to.

Baffled sold for $3.5 million to John Malone’s Bridlewood Farm.

Bubbler(dam of Arrogate) went up to 4.7m, but was a RNA. [/QUOTE]

McCormack buys a lot for Japanese clients.

Yes, that’s what I thought too. Yet why he would specifically state she was staying stateside if it wasn’t so?

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Yes, that’s what I thought too. Yet why he would specifically state she was staying stateside if it wasn’t so?[/QUOTE]

She may stay until she foals.

Guess we’ll have to wait & see. She may get more love if sent to Japan anyhow. Many horses that would have been passed over here in the states, seem to do well over there.

I was part of the press scrum after Love the Chase was bought, she’s staying in the U.S. for the foreseeable future. Straight from him: “I can’t say who she’s going to but she will stay here in America and she’ll reside here. She’ll get every chance going forward. She’s already getting the best chance in foal to Tapit and it’s just whether she can keep going.”

Definitely some pricey mares going under the hammer :slight_smile:

Can a quality broodmare, assuming she can pass on some of her talent, really return a multi-million dollar investment after stud fees are paid and offspring sold??

Also notice that Littleprincessmama is back in foal to Pioneerof the Nile for a full AP brother.

And Baffled, a Distorted Humor daughter in foal to Tapit sold for $3.5M :eek:

And RNAs are down from last year.

Have to say that Love the Chase when owned by the Martins did not appear to be very well cared for in California. All the photos I saw of her; she seemed underweight or under muscled and just plain as day. Taylor Made has really fed her well and she looks amazing. Really, a lovely looking mare in her current state.

Hope they disclose who the new lucky owner is but excited to see her staying here. Tapit is a neat choice on her genetically and looking forward to what they choose next year with all the options out there!

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Can a quality broodmare, assuming she can pass on some of her talent, really return a multi-million dollar investment after stud fees are paid and offspring sold??[/QUOTE]
If the mare is a commercial mare, I’d say yes.

For example, Mushka (who is going through the ring tomorrow) was a $2.4 million purchase in 2008 as a 3yo. She earned $866,302 on the track after she was bought. Then her first foal (by Distorted) sold for $1,650,000 as a yearling. She didn’t have a foal the year after that yearling but her foal the following year sold for $1,200,000 as a yearling (Bernardini filly) and her weanling, who goes through the ring the hip after her will probably bring a pretty penny too.

Even with bills and stud fees, she’s done a good job of paying for herself. That doesn’t happen super often, obviously but quality mares who throw good looking foals can usually get nice prices until they prove they can’t produce runners.

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If the mare is a commercial mare, I’d say yes.

For example, Mushka (who is going through the ring tomorrow) was a $2.4 million purchase in 2008 as a 3yo. She earned $866,302 on the track after she was bought. Then her first foal (by Distorted) sold for $1,650,000 as a yearling. She didn’t have a foal the year after that yearling but her foal the following year sold for $1,200,000 as a yearling (Bernardini filly) and her weanling, who goes through the ring the hip after her will probably bring a pretty penny too.

Even with bills and stud fees, she’s done a good job of paying for herself. That doesn’t happen super often, obviously but quality mares who throw good looking foals can usually get nice prices until they prove they can’t produce runners.[/QUOTE]

Mushka is a classy, classy mare. I’m surprised Mrs. Moran is selling her and Cotton Blossom. I cared for both of them for a time, great mares.

In regards to the question… it’s the same as any equine investment-- some gambles pay off, some don’t. A million dollar horse can recoup the investment (whether it’s a yearling, race horse, or mare) or it can be a total flop. Mares are perhaps less risk than yearlings, because you can attempt to recoup investment over a period of years, rather than “swing for the fences” at the racetrack and fail if the colt isn’t a GSW stallion prospect.

Scarlet Tango (dam of Visionaire) sold to Stonestreet in 2008 i/f to Grand Slam for $800,000, right when the economy tanked. That '09 filly didn’t do much, but Stonestreet has since bred two graded stakes winners from her-- Scarlet Strike and Tara’s Tango. Scarlet Strike was sold as a yearling (for only $70K), but Tara’s Tango was kept and raced by Stonestreet, earning her mother’s purchase price back. Scarlet Strike was sold and sent overseas in the 2014 November sale for $1.3M. Good mare families are very valuable, because in general they do pay for themselves.

Thanks :slight_smile:

I know a bit that ‘depends’ for sure but was curious if those spendy broodmares (either prospect or with a few on the ground) can actually make a profit after a spendy stud fee and foal raising costs to get to the Keeneland weanling sale :slight_smile:

In my opinion, unless you have a broodmare who is already a proven producer (ala Baffled in a recent sale) to make your money back on million dollar purchases, you’re probably better off going with a younger mare who either has a big name 2yo on the track or one either not bred yet or bred to a hot sire who also has a hot pedigree and race record.
Assuming the foal comes out correct and the sire stays pretty popular (ala Tapit, Medaglia d’Oro, ect), you don’t have as big an uphill climb to get that money back as you would if you spent $1-million+ on a good race mare who hasn’t produced much on the track with five-six foals. It’s obviously always a gamble no matter which way you choose but it’s always seemed to me that the less you can give the buyer to knock (mare who hasn’t produced blacktype, ect) the better off you are.

On a different note, at Keeneland today Hip 303 (Serena’s Cat weanling) is one to really watch. Buyers have loved that mare in the weanling market the last few years for obvious reasons.

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Have to say that Love the Chase when owned by the Martins did not appear to be very well cared for in California. All the photos I saw of her; she seemed underweight or under muscled and just plain as day. Taylor Made has really fed her well and she looks amazing. Really, a lovely looking mare in her current state.

Hope they disclose who the new lucky owner is but excited to see her staying here. Tapit is a neat choice on her genetically and looking forward to what they choose next year with all the options out there![/QUOTE]

I saw Love the Chase at Taylor Made and at Harris Farms. I must say that the Martins and Taylor Made did very well. Love the Chase looked great under their care.

I so understand why the Coburn’s might be jealous but this mare looked fantastic.

I remember watching her Distaff. Nice, nice mare. https://youtu.be/SmHexxudjm8
Pleasant Home

The other Phipps fillies & mares did well too: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/217606/phipps-mares-prove-popular-at-keeneland

Unrivaled Belle (in foal to Tapit) went for $3.8 Million
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/217572/unrivaled-belle-to-pope-for-3-8-million

Unrivaled Belle is a truly stunning mare. Great quality of bone, love her shoulder, topline, long high set neck. She is beautiful

Keenland saw the sale of three of Mrs. Moran’s broodmares. Mushka purchased in 2008 for 2.4 mil…sold for $650,000 this week. Cotton Blossom purchased in 2009 for 2.3 mil…sold this week for $235,000, and Unrivaled Belle purchased in 2011 for 2.8 mil…sold this week for 3.8 mil. Total purchase “back then” was 7.5 mil. Total sale this week…4.685 mil. For an overall loss of 2.815 million.
Times are a changing at Brushwood. Very sad to see the broodmares starting to go to other homes.

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Keenland saw the sale of three of Mrs. Moran’s broodmares. Mushka purchased in 2008 for 2.4 mil…sold for $650,000 this week. Cotton Blossom purchased in 2009 for 2.3 mil…sold this week for $235,000, and Unrivaled Belle purchased in 2011 for 2.8 mil…sold this week for 3.8 mil. Total purchase “back then” was 7.5 mil. Total sale this week…4.685 mil. For an overall loss of 2.815 million.
Times are a changing at Brushwood. Very sad to see the broodmares starting to go to other homes.[/QUOTE]

Not quite that much loss, as I believe a few of the yearlings sold well. I’m on my phone or else I’d look it up, but I know Mushka’s first foal, by Distorted Humor, brought 7 figures.

I think Brushwood still owns Ponce De Leone, too (dam of Mucho Macho Man). Not sure why she sold those three good mares, though.

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I saw Love the Chase at Taylor Made and at Harris Farms. I must say that the Martins and Taylor Made did very well. Love the Chase looked great under their care.

I so understand why the Coburn’s might be jealous but this mare looked fantastic.[/QUOTE]

Harris farm is or at least it used to be one of the top California farms. Keep in mind mares regardless of the stature by and large live like the majority of “retired” race mares. Most live out 24-7, most are not groomed daily as a rule. Depends on the owner, farm and more importantly the day rate.

When a mare becomes a top producer especially when they produce a high profile racehorse like CC with a huge fan club they become a bit of a celebrity. A horse that farm visitors will always ask to see. So she will go from looking like pretty much any other mare she is turned out with to the “best turned out”. We all know that daily grooming will do this all other things being equal.

Also all horses going to a sale regardless of pedigree, stature or value are sales prepped. This is what consignors are paid to do. Taylor Made is one of the top sales consignors/agents this is their main business. They can make a silk purse out of a sows ear. A $2,000 mare will look every bit as good as a $1 million dollar mare.

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Keenland saw the sale of three of Mrs. Moran’s broodmares. Mushka purchased in 2008 for 2.4 mil…sold for $650,000 this week. Cotton Blossom purchased in 2009 for 2.3 mil…sold this week for $235,000, and Unrivaled Belle purchased in 2011 for 2.8 mil…sold this week for 3.8 mil. Total purchase “back then” was 7.5 mil. Total sale this week…4.685 mil. For an overall loss of 2.815 million.
Times are a changing at Brushwood. Very sad to see the broodmares starting to go to other homes.[/QUOTE]

I wouldnt be too concerned here. Mushka had a Distorted Humor colt sell in 1012 for $1,650,000; a Bernardini filly sell in 2014 for $1,200,000, and her weanling filly sold just this week for $525,000. I think she paid for herself.

Cotton Blossom is 12 years old with a spotty produce record, a Distorted Humor sold for $150,000 and a Bernardini sold for $325,000. She aborted one year, was barren a couple of years, and her 2 foals to race were moderate winners. At age 12, now was the time to sell her.

Unrivaled Belle is 10. Her first 3 foals sold for $320,000, $400,000, and $550,000. The first hasnt run, the second is 2 this year and is placed, and the third just sold in September.

2016 Keenland Breeding stock sale

Evelyn Benoit is snapping up some pricey ladies at this years Keenland Breeding stock sale, specifically to breed to her stud Star Guitar.
Hope it works out well for her :slight_smile:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/217645/benoits-unorthodox-breeding-plan

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/217674/benoit-strikes-again-for-quality-at-keeneland