Good idea to put up this topic or not? Rumors are circulating already about who is considering running.
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Sure it’s crazy early. But why not. Some potentials are obviously making moves.
I think for the GOP, it’s waaaaay to early. I think the temperature will have to be taken in the country as to how palatable Trump still is in 2023.
Since Trump seems to be currently relevant to the GOP, I think Ted Cruz and obviously angling Lindsay Graham. Graham maybe not to run but for a serious cabinet position. I think Trump is feeling things out and I know Jr. is feeling things out. I think Pence is feeling things out but I don’t think he’d be a serious candidate. I can see Tom Cotton and maybe DeSantis running on Trump’s coattails. I hear Hawley might try but I can’t see him going far. Maybe Rubio.
The think with all of the above is that they’ll all fight among themselves in the primaries and will split the Trump base vote. They’ve all put themselves in the same box to appeal to Trump’s base these days. I wouldn’t rule out Romney, who could position himself as the “Adult Republican in the room”. I think that many of the former GOPers that currently support the Lincoln Project would not vote for a Hawley type ever, and likely not Cruz because of what his rhetoric has become, but would vote for Romney or a reasonable Republican.
Like I said, I think the temperature of the nation in 2023 will mean much. It is disheartening to see Fox and many Republicans trying so hard to keep the temperature (and fear) so high in the country these days (to benefit their paycheck or chances).
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Thanks for replying. I tend to prefer threads to stay on topic and thought this topic would end up becoming part of an already long existing thread.
My thinking is pretty different from yours, but I’m not good at predictions. The other day I ran across some poll that had only about 1500 surveyed. The results really surprised me. The poll was done by someone that did the poll for Trump in 2016. One poll assumed Trump would run, and the other poll was without him.
I do not think Lindsay Graham is a candidate for anything in a Republican administration. Nor is Romney.
The poll results tied DeSantis and Pence. It was Pence that was the surprise. The only reason Pence would end up on a ticket is because his name is more well known than some of the other would-be candidates. Remember, most people don’t follow politics and the news like the group on CE.
It seems the RNC has a liking for DeSantis, and of course they have some clout in helping someone become a candidate.
Yes, Cotton and Hawley have been mentioned along with Kristi Noem. Every now and then I hear Nikki Haley’s name mentioned.
Just the other day on TV Chris Christie said he was strongly considering a run again. Mike Pompeo has skirted the question, but he also might be considering it.
Now in my opinion, what Trump should do, is pick someone from the bunch and throw support to them. That’s the only chance the Republicans have to ever win. With Trump running again, I don’t think there is any chance at all for victory.
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Rick Scott really wants to be president.
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I’m just making predictions from how people are acting. Who know what’ll happen!
I think that like the Dem field in 2020 and the GOP field in 2016, I’m thinking that 15-10 GOP people might try to run and the number will be whittled down by the first handful of primaries. Almost no one challenges the incumbent.
Graham might run originally and then back out and back someone. Didn’t he do that in 2016? Running gets one publicity because they get into the primaries and especially the debates. Name recognition and relevance. Why do you think he wouldn’t be a candidate (at least a candidate)? I’m curious what your insight is.
Yes, I could see that Romney wouldn’t bother, but I’m not sure.
I can see DeSantis more than Pence because Pence does not seem to like to be in the spotlight. He seems to have spent his 4 years kind of skirting the spotlight. Do you think HE would want to run? He would have to want to in order to wade into the primaries.
I think Nikki Haley, MAYBE, just trashed her chance by clearly stating that Trump shouldn’t run and the GOP should separate from him. If the party wants to stay with Trump in 2023 (the year before the election), she’s out. Who knows, maybe she’ll stick it out in 2024. Maybe they all will for a large primary field. If the party wants to separate from Trump in 2023, she might be in. Her issue may be that, in that case, she worked for Trump and said good things about him. I think her major issue is that she’s been “here” and then “there” on her thoughts of the direction of the GOP, not really standing for anything consistent that one can say is HER stance.
Hawley and Noem don’t have much of a record, and with Cotton, they’ll split the primary vote. They aren’t incredibly different.
I can see Chris Christie running. At least entering the primary. I think his longevity will be based on how well he does in the first 6 primaries. I can see Pompeo wanting to run, sure.
I think that if Trump doesn’t run, he’ll throw a ton of money and campaign for someone he thinks should win. He’s raised a ton of money through “creative ways” since the last election. That said, some of that money has gone to legal fees and his clout will be dependent on what comes out in the investigations. If his tax returns show he’s broke or cheated with lenders and taxes, I’m not sure how his base will feel. Power COULD potentially shift to more Mitch McConnell types, who will be actively pushing the GOP agenda in the next 3 years. He could separate himself from Trump by saying “see, I’m actively DOING things for the GOP, Trump isn’t DOING anything but funding people he likes. He’s out of touch with the GOP”. Who knows if the voters will still believe in Trump / care about what he says 3 years from now. Who knows!
Like I mentioned, I think things might change a lot between now and 2023, and then 2024 when the primaries and debates are actually happening. I think a BUNCH of people will run and the debates and first several primaries will weed candidates out.
I think that like the Dem field in 2020 and the GOP field in 2016, I’m thinking that 15-10 GOP people might try to run and the number will be whittled down by the first handful of primaries. Almost no one challenges the incumbent.
True. That is something I always wonder about too. So many people of both parties end up dropping out if they don’t do well in the first couple primaries. Usually this is due to losing backers. Still, one wonders if they stayed in longer if the results may have been different.
Graham might run originally and then back out and back someone. Didn’t he do that in 2016? Running gets one publicity because they get into the primaries and especially the debates. Name recognition and relevance. Why do you think he wouldn’t be a candidate (at least a candidate)? I’m curious what your insight is.Yes he did run in 2016 and ended up in the 3rd tier group and never made it to the big stage. I do not think he is stupid. Therefore, he knows he wouldn’t have a chance. Besides, I don’t think he would get funding. He was practically begging for campaign money in the last senatorial election. With all the other names being tossed about, he is smart enough to know he couldn’t compete.
Yes, I could see that Romney wouldn’t bother, but I’m not sure.Whomever runs has to be someone that Trump supporters like. That for sure wouldn’t be Romney. He recently got booed at a recent Republican function in Utah.
I can see DeSantis more than Pence because Pence does not seem to like to be in the spotlight. He seems to have spent his 4 years kind of skirting the spotlight. Do you think HE would want to run? He would have to want to in order to wade into the primaries.
I and my Republican friends cringe at Pence. He may have skirted the spotlight because Trump controlled it. He did seem to be able to get along with the governors while he was on the Covid committee. I mean, he didn’t seem to pi$$ anybody off. But that’s one of the things I don’t like about him. He’s the smooth politician, never putting his foot in his mouth, but never really saying anything worthwhile and never answering a question. He recently went to New Hampshire which could mean he has intentions of running.
I think Nikki Haley, MAYBE, just trashed her chance by clearly stating that Trump shouldn’t run and the GOP should separate from him. If the party wants to stay with Trump in 2023 (the year before the election), she’s out. Who knows, maybe she’ll stick it out in 2024. Maybe they all will for a large primary field. If the party wants to separate from Trump in 2023, she might be in. Her issue may be that, in that case, she worked for Trump and said good things about him. I think her major issue is that she’s been “here” and then “there” on her thoughts of the direction of the GOP, not really standing for anything consistent that one can say is HER stance. I really don’t have much of an opinion on her. Depends on whether they want a female on the ticket.
Hawley and Noem don’t have much of a record, and with Cotton, they’ll split the primary vote. They aren’t incredibly different.I know next to nothing about Noem except her touting how well she’s done with covid. Hawley and Cotton both are very articulate and could impress people. But yes, they are more unknown except to people that follow Republican politics.
I can see Chris Christie running. At least entering the primary. I think his longevity will be based on how well he does in the first 6 primaries. I can see Pompeo wanting to run, sure.
How hard will the group come down on me if I say I like Christie. I do. He was my choice in 2016. I loved him as a Governor of my state, too. I do not believe for a second that he knew or condoned the bridge gate thing. I also like Pompeo. He has managed to avoid much bad press. He lacks charisma a bit.
I think that if Trump doesn’t run, he’ll throw a ton of money and campaign for someone he thinks should win. He’s raised a ton of money through “creative ways” since the last election. That said, some of that money has gone to legal fees and his clout will be dependent on what comes out in the investigations. If his tax returns show he’s broke or cheated with lenders and taxes, I’m not sure how his base will feel. Power COULD potentially shift to more Mitch McConnell types, who will be actively pushing the GOP agenda in the next 3 years. He could separate himself from Trump by saying “see, I’m actively DOING things for the GOP, Trump isn’t DOING anything but funding people he likes. He’s out of touch with the GOP”. Who knows if the voters will still believe in Trump / care about what he says 3 years from now.
Like I mentioned, I think things might change a lot between now and 2023, and then 2024 when the primaries and debates are actually happening. I think a BUNCH of people will run and the debates and first several primaries will weed candidates out.
[/quote] True. A lot can change between now and then. Actually rather than Trump being a significant help to a candidate, he could be a significant hindrance to one he doesn’t like.
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I wouldn’t mind seeing Chris Christie be the nominee. He was a popular governor of a blue state, so he must have done something right. He’s always been reasonable in interviews I’ve seen and doesn’t get carried away in rhetoric.
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I think Christie is a power hungry schmuck.
Not Trump level, but I’m not sure he wouldn’t go there given the chance.
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I think it would be great if Christie got the GOP nomination in 2024. That alone would show voters the GOP is no longer run by a mob of the far right.
For the Republican Party, Christie could pull in the Independents and the used-to-be Republicans. But he’d also have to have a plan for the country, which the GOP is sorely lacking.
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I disagree. They have a plan but it’s short-term and would return us to the thrilling days of baby scooping, Jim Crow, smog alerts and burning rivers.
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Guarantee it will be DeSantis either as the nominee or with some form of Trump 
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Chris Christie did impress me as a governor, however, I lost all respect for him when he kowtowed over and over again to Trump. He was stupid enough to contract COVID when helping the president prepare for the debates. With his weight and health problems, he was lucky to survive. I just think his judgement is really poor.
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I 100% agree with your there. I didn’t like how he kowtowed to Trump, either. And I was really, really thinking that COVID-19 would do him in. I was fairly impressed with his statements about the disease, though, warning people about how hard it was for him to bear and that people should avoid it. A huge change from the other politicians who contracted it and later said “oh, I’m fine. It’s no big deal”. I think CC was one of the first politicians to say “this was awful” and I think that went a long way for many conservatives to take the virus more seriously.
Honestly, given the group of people I think will run in 2024, I’d be thrilled if CC ran and got the nomination. I think he’s more moderate and able to work across the aisle than anyone who is currently looking to throw their hat in the arena. SOMEONE will be the GOP nominee and may win. Oh God, not Jr, DeSantis or Pence!
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With everything that has happened, including Trump continuing to lie about the election. Christie recently (I think it was last night) gave Trump an A. An A!!! What an obsequious toady.
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Here’s a recent article talking about 8 hopefuls that were invited to Texas.
Yes, but he did come out in public and condemn Republicans for believing in The Big Lie.
Yes, I did see that he gave Trump an A now that you mention it ( 
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That’s interesting. Thanks!
Even more interesting is this:
Trump told Fox Business Network’s Maria Bartiromo on Thursday that he was “100%” considering another run after losing in 2020 to Democrat Joe Biden.
Trump was not invited to Texas, the source said. Former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley was invited but was unable to attend, the source said.
Do you think he’s just blowing smoke up peoples’ butts? If he wasn’t invited, it seems like the GOP insiders knows he’s not going to run. Why do you think he wasn’t invited?
Chris Christie Discusses the Capitol Riots & Differences Between Him & Trump with Steve Adubato
Recorded on 1/13/2021, Steve Adubato is joined by Former New Jersey Governor, Chris Christie ®, to talk about the United States Capitol riots on January 6, 2021, President Trump’s involvement in inciting the riots, and the biggest challenges and opportunities Joe Biden will face in his presidency. They also discuss the lessons Governor Christie learned from his personal experience with COVID-19 and the challenges facing vaccine distribution in New Jersey.
Governor Chris Christie says in regard to the January 6th Capitol riots, “words matter, actions matter, in a democracy. More than almost anything. The way we argue with each other, the way we debate, the way we discuss, and the way we accept the verdict of democracy.” He adds that President Trump continued to say that the election was a fraud, and therefore, the people of the United States wanted to believe their president, so they did. He says, “Those words matter. And it’s what lead to the riot on January 6th on Capitol hill. His actions, his words, his conduct, inspired those people to do what they did.”
Governor Chris Christie discusses the differences in style between him and President Trump. He says, “The difference is the truth. Now you can be blunt and direct, and I think public officials should be, I think that’s what the public wants. But you have to tell the truth. And when you’re blunt and direct and you’re lying, that’s completely unacceptable. And it’s an abrogation of your responsibility as an elected official.”
Extracted from below video which has more.
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Answer to your first question: Yes
Why he wasn’t invited? I guess they don’t need to know much more about him. The others are more or less getting interviewed. Just a guess.
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After Mitt Romney was booed in Utah by members of his own party, it has become apparent the majority of GOP members judge a person by how much they show loyalty toward Trump. Whether that changes in the next year or two will determine who gets support for a presidential run.
Mike Pence has been doing his Trump suck-up tour even after the January 6th insurrection where he was put in danger BY Trump. Is it Stockholm syndrome with him?
I don’t think we’ve ever seen such slavish devotion toward an ex-president. Trump pulls the strings and they dance. I hope we don’t end up with Trump 2.0 as a GOP candidate.
I can’t comment on the Dems. The Biden administration has just started their work. We don’t know what they will face in the next two years and how successful they will be in handling any crises.
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